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Which glutathione?

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Cheesus, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    Hi folks,

    I am slowly bulking out my supplement regime and I am coming to glutathione. I have had a look about and it seems the best bet is to take the constituents; to take liposomal or acetyl glutathione; or possibly as a mouth spray/transdermal. I am trying to reduce the number of pills I am taking for the sake of my gut, either a single pill or preferably transdermal/spray would be best.

    Does anyone know a good product? I am wary of manufacturers I don't know but a good recommendation goes a long way.
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    maryb iherb code TAK122

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    the following is from @kyzcreig in reply to a post I made recently.


    Have you tried a topical glutathione supplement? I'm using both S-Acetyl-Glutathione and a topical cream and find they dramatically reduce my symptoms. The regular reduced glutathione oral supplements do nothing for me however. Frankly, I'm not sure about SAG yet but I'm going to keep taking it until I run out. The cream is noticeably effective.

    Here's a write up on glutathione recycling and what you can do about it:
    http://thyroidbook.com/blog/glutathione-recycling-for-autoimmune-disease/
    Here's one about leaky gut specifically.
    http://sanjosefuncmed.com/intestinal-permeability-clinical-unwinding-leaky-gut/
    At least in my case simply eliminating foods and taking antimicrobials hasn't cured my gut symptoms, so I plan to follow this protocol next.

    The following is a comprehensive supplement for glutathione recycling: http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/glutathione-recycler-K57-90-p-apex-energetics.html
    I'm planning on taking each component individually however and seeing what I have success with
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  3. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    Thanks @maryb

    What glutathione cream do you use? And where do you get it? Transdermal is perfect for me.

    I am also having a look into this recycler :) thanks
  4. maryb

    maryb iherb code TAK122

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    sorry he/she didn't say - I'll tag them again @kyzcreig
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  5. kyzcreig

    kyzcreig

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    @maryb
    this website sure is fancy
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  6. maryb

    maryb iherb code TAK122

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    just wondering any way to measure levels of glutathione on its own?
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  8. minkeygirl

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  9. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    Did you notice it helping you?

    @kyzcreig That Swanson one is a lot cheaper! It is marketed as anti-wrinkle cream that I can see... you think that the Kirkman one, which I guess is intended for glutathione levels, knows something Swanson doesn't? It's £14 vs £35 that I have seen! A big difference indeed...
  10. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl Is Jim Jones alive and well on PR?

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    I was taking it along with other things to aid during DMPS chelations I can't tell you one way or another. That was in about 2007 so I'm sure there are others since then.
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  11. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    I will factor it into my computations :)

    Every time I see your cat I just want to give it a big hug!
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  12. kyzcreig

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    Kirkman is big on purity and hypoallergenics. I'm not sure Swanson is as stringent. Naturally those costs are passed on to the consumer. I find using a little bigger dab of Swanson's cream is about as effective as using Kirkman.

    I've used liposomal oral supplements in the past but they generally evinced a negative reaction, so I switched over to transdermals. I'm glad I did.

    Edit: Missed the first question. Yes, it helped and helps me tremendously. It dramatically improves my quality of sleep. In fact it was so effective it's why I started researching the metabolic angle of CFS, which seems to correspond with my experiences (idiopathic mercury accumulation, benefiting from the ONOO protocol, etc.) convincingly.
    Edit2: The following is a short write up of how I'm approaching this:
    http://sanjosefuncmed.com/autoimmune-disease-u-s-part-6-6-part-series/

    B12 and methylation are popular on these forums but I'm skeptical that will help me. Nevertheless I'm going to get tested (anyone have any lab recommendations?) and then decide whether to discontinue glutathione, which is necessary for committing to Freddd's protocol.
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  13. caledonia

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    Ben Lynch says to be sure to take NAD (form of niacin) with glutathione so you make the good reduced glutathione and not just a bunch of oxidized glutathione.

    I have many methylation links in my signature.
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    @Helen
    thanks for the link I'll keep it. I've just had it done but will re-check in a few months after trying to supplement it.

    @caledonia
    I'm not doing methylation just going off my blood test which showed low glutathione, would you think it still necessary to take niacin (NAD) if I tried transdermal glutathione?
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    @maryb I take copious amounts of niacin daily (2-3 grams). It seems to help but it needs to be balanced out with other Bs, like biotin, otherwise you'll end of with a deficiency.

    Niacin supports the gluathione recycling system.
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    I already take NADH as part of Myhill's protocol. I was wanting to use glutathione as it is mentioned in her new book and I am trying to get most of her protocol in place. I don't want to inadvertently start a methylation protocol, however! I am in danger of running into a heavy detox here?
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    Yes, I think so. It's still glutathione no matter how it gets into your body.
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    Techically speaking, when you take glutathione, you're not doing methylation, you're actually skipping over all the steps in the methylation cycle and taking one of the end products directly.

    But anyway, glutathione is the body's main detoxifier. So yes, you might want to take it easy with the glutathione.
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  19. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    @kyzcreig, Will niacinamide do this?
  20. Mya Symons

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    I found Jarrow reduced glutathione to be the best. Also nutricology NAC enhanced antioxidant formula supplement boosts glutathione levels well. It is cheapest at pureformulas.com.

    Lifewave has a glutathione patch. I haven't tried it though because a months worth is expensive.
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2014

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