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when to add LCF

Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by Aerose91, Aug 25, 2015.

  1. Aerose91

    Aerose91 Senior Member

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    I'm currently at 10 mg/mb12 and yl6 mg mfolate per day. I take the mfolate between meals and 2 doses of 5mg mb12 sublingually after meals.

    Is there a dosage that one should be on before adding lcf? And at what time if day should it be? I.e. with food or empty stomach, safe to take with other methyl supps or stand alone.

    I'm trying to wade through the lack of structure in Freddds protocol but some things i just don't know where to start.

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    I took LCF am and PM on an empty stomach. I can't remember how much. It was Doctor's Best. I took it with much less MB12 and Mfolate.

    Freddd also has Dibencozide in his Deadlock Quartet.
     
  3. Aerose91

    Aerose91 Senior Member

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    Thanks, minkey. We're you taking it around the time of mfolate? And every day?

    I do take adb12 also, once or twice a week
     
  4. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    My NP had me taking mfolate In the mornings. I took it with food.

    I would take MB12 when I woke and let it dissolve for at least 45 to an hour. When I was taking more I'd take it on an empty stomach.

    I took LCF every day last thing before bed and when I woke an hour before I ate. I had no problem with it but others do.

    I also took adb12 everyday. I never noticed anything from doing this like others

    I'm going to start supplementing with lower doses of B's to make my own B complex. I want to see if it helps my adrenals.

    It's so complicated. I'm pretty ignorant about it. Change that, I'm really ignorant

    @ahmo of @PeterPositive helped me. Maybe they can advise.
     
  5. helen1

    helen1 Senior Member

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    You def need to take it at least 30 mins before food or 2 hrs after food because it competes with the other amino acids in foods for absorption. You won't get a response or very little if you take it with or near food.

    Some people find a.a.'s stimulating so you should try it in the morning to see if you do too in case it might keep you awake in pm.
     
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  6. Aerose91

    Aerose91 Senior Member

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    Sounds good, thanks. I also take my mfolate in the am before eating, is there reason to believe there woukd be any absorption issues between the two?
     
  7. ahmo

    ahmo Senior Member

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    I take LCF midday, w/ my 2nd B complex dose. When I used more, I also took it early AM. As I recall, Fred suggested this sort of schedule.

    from page 6-7 of Guide to Freddd's Protocol, 2nd link in my signature.
     
  8. whodathunkit

    whodathunkit Senior Member

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    I had to take it in the morning when I was starting Freddd's protocol because it made me very, very speedy and impacted my sleep. Now I take it in the morning just in case. IMO best not to take it after midday. Taking it in the afternoon or evening could definitely mess with sleep patterns, especially until you get acclimated to it.

    And, as @helen1 said, take on an empty stomach. It's usually the very first thing I take every day.

    Also, there is not supposed to be any benefit accrued to taking more than 1000mg/day. So if you can work up to a larger dose, staying at 500 or 1000mgs is all you need. I think even going up to 1000mg is supposed to be for congestive heart failure, but that's the dose I take. Possibly 500mg is all anyone without that condition needs.
     
  9. PeterPositive

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    Honestly I have no idea :) I have never used carnitine, if not for a short time. Tried it for a week with no results whatsoever and moved on.
     
  10. Aerose91

    Aerose91 Senior Member

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    Thanks for the help, guys. I'll probably try to work through this crash then start 100 mg of LCF. I like to have a baseline set before starting something new.
     

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