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What does overmethylation feel like?

dsdmom

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I recently started Amy Yasko's new daily vitamin and although she contends it should not provide enough to jump start methylation I haven't been feeling well. I have other things going on so it's not definitely the vitamins but I was just curious in general what it feels like when you start methylating. And what would make you take niacin.
 

Valentijn

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I recently started Amy Yasko's new daily vitamin and although she contends it should not provide enough to jump start methylation I haven't been feeling well. I have other things going on so it's not definitely the vitamins but I was just curious in general what it feels like when you start methylating. And what would make you take niacin.
She puts a lot of extra stuff in her multivitamins. You might have an immune reaction to something in it.
 

Freddd

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I recently started Amy Yasko's new daily vitamin and although she contends it should not provide enough to jump start methylation I haven't been feeling well. I have other things going on so it's not definitely the vitamins but I was just curious in general what it feels like when you start methylating. And what would make you take niacin.

Hi Dsdmom,

According to the items and lists of symptoms I have read associated with "overmethylation", it feels just like b12 deficiency, especially perhaps like AdoCbl deficiency. I did a chart of those posted somewhere around this forum broken up by type of b12 deficiency both over and under methylation symptoms. They both included overlapping symptoms and were all from the same set of Active b12 and active folate deficiencies.

However, methylation startup often has the symptoms below, arranged in groups by what they typically are caused by.

Group 1 – Hypokalemia onset.

Symptoms may appear with serum potassium as high as 4.3. May become dangerous if ignored. Considered “rare” with cyanocobalamin it is very common with methylb12 and adensosylb12 and less so with hydroxycobalamin..

IBS – Steady constipation , Nausea, Vomiting, Paralyzed Ileum, Hard knots of muscle, Sudden muscle spasms when relaxed, Sudden muscle spasms when stretching , Sudden muscle spasms when kneeling, Sudden muscle spasms when reaching , Sudden muscle spasms when turning upper body to side, Tightening of muscles, spasms and excruciating pain in neck muscles, waking up screaming in pain from muscle spasms in legs.

Muscle weakness, Abnormal heart rhythms (dysrhythmias), Increased pulse rate, Increased blood pressure, Emotional changes and/or instability, dermal or sub-dermal Itching, and if not treated potentially paralysis and death.

Group 2a - Both

IBS – Diarrhea alternating with constipation, IBS – Normal alternating with constipation

Group 2b – Either or both
Headache, Increased malaise, Fatigue

Group 3 - Induced and/or Paradoxical Folate deficiency or insufficiency


IBS – Steady diarrhea, IBS – Diarrhea alternating with normal, Stomach ache, Uneasy digestive tract, increased hypersensitive responses , Skin rashes, Increased acne, Skin peeling around fingernails, Skin cracking and peeling at fingertips, Angular Cheilitis, Canker sores, Coated tongue, Runny nose, Increased allergies, Increased Multiple Chemical Sensitivities,

Increased asthma, rapidly increasing Generalized inflammation in body, Increased Inflammation pain in muscles, Increased Inflammation pain in joints, Achy muscles, Flu like symptoms, Depression, Less sociable, Impaired planning and logic, Brain fog, Low energy, Light headedness, Sluggishness, Forgetfulness, Confusion, Difficulty walking, Behavioral disorders, Dementia, Reduced sense of taste, Increase irritability, Loss of reflexes, Fevers, Old symptoms returning, Heart palpitations, Bleeding easily.
 
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