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Wessely in news again

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by SilverbladeTE, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21790348

    how does that square with is previous work saying there was no unusual amounts of PTSD etc in Afghanistna veterans, eh?! i do NOT bloody believe we have somehow got miraculously lower rates of PTSD than the Americans, lower perhaps ebcause of differing methods, culture etc, but not *that* amazingly lower. it stinks.

    and the military weeds out psychos etc.
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    SOC Back to work (easy, part-time work)

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    Oh really? Does the UK military actually select people for service? Is that a special job in the military -- to go out into the streets and "select people who often come from difficult and aggressive backgrounds" to force into the military? Do they prowl the local lockups looking for people to "select"?

    Does this sound bizarre to anyone else? Now Wesseley has offended the many honorable service people throughout the world.
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    Wesseley is definitively going to make more enemies. I'm sure he cannot even climb a rope nor fly a plane. He's only good at insulting people.
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  4. sianrecovery

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    I've worked with people with PTSD from combat. To have them insulted by The Weasel - because that is what his remarks amount to - just makes me want to punch something. Hard.
    But I'm late for choir practice.....better put the chess set down.
    He really is a middle-class prick. Only in the frigging UK could you get away with such obvious snobbery under the guise of expert opinion.
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    if he's worried about death threats from people who dont have the energy to hold a gun, then he better watch what he says to people that do know how to use one effectively??
    I think he likes to be controversial because it puts him up in the bright lights but he's getting close to looking like a deer staring into the car headlights of late.

    He did make a statement once about being around cfs patients/death threats etc and feeling safer in afghanistan, well that might be changing. ;)
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    I think he needs the limelight and will do it any whichway he can, especially in an area (psyche) which cannot be scientifically proven - a safe position in which to come up with controversial ideas.
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  7. SilverbladeTE

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    yeah I think he's a narcissist who's desperate for attention, and isntead of just, oh, yakking on a forum :whistle: actively screws folk up ;)

    SOC, Sian
    yeah what that scumbag doesn't get is that many folk form *poor and thus often screw up backgrounds* jointhe military because they do not have all the wonderful life choices HE EFFING HAD! :mad:

    I'm no hard ass I don't wanna hurt folk, but there were no jobs, no chance for higher education, so went to join up for the Engineers or REME, I like fixing/making/helping, but was born with twisted legs, can't run no matter how I tried/trained ("shin splints", muscles tear off the bone)
    so humiliating, sigh, pals tried for Marine Commandos but they we're way choosy as so many applicants and thus they weren't taken in.
    ah well maybe just as well in the end (and well yeah my pals are, or were kinda rough :p but they're genuinely decent people or they wouldn't be my pals, huge difference).

    anyone who WANTS ot fight is a gawd damn nutjob. Not running away when you have good reason to make a stand is entirely another matter.

    most of the special forces have way high percentages of Scots even though we're only 10% of the UK's population, not because we're were psychos but because we do not have the choices/wealth etc. 25% of the UK's casualties in WW2 were Scots.
    and as said the military actively screens OUT folk with mental problems, last thing you want is a psychopath with a machine gun or worse...
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    [quote="sianrecovery, post: 341514, member: 4633 Only in the frigging UK could you get away with such obvious snobbery under the guise of expert opinion.[/quote]

    As if! Happens in the US all the time also. :)
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    No. This is wrong. The biggest obstacle is the refusal of the US to end its attempt to dominate the world through violence. The basic US policy, both foreign and domestic, is Obey or Die, Work or Starve.

    If people around the world would just stop resisting our diktats, we wouldn't have to kill them and wreck stuff. So really it's the fault of Afghans and Iraqis that our young people come home damaged. It's most certainly not the fault of Our Dear Leaders who send them around the world to kill and be killed - Our Leaders are just carrying out the Will of God, who so obviously put us in charge, because We're Number One!!
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  10. SilverbladeTE

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    Jimells
    Britain's demand for power & dominance had a very large part in triggering WW1 and 2.
    Cenotaphs and ceremonies are dirt cheap and great photo opoortunities versus carign for injured blech! :/
    or you know,active beneficial co-operation/trade rather than war.
    Stable democracies do not pose terrorist etc threats, but they are "Not wanted" because they are a rival to dominance so we get "pretend" bullcrap "democracies" being supported which are nothing but.
    To achieve true democracy you need a large Middle Class. Democracy is the enemy of the elite, they want no changes, they want to "fossilize" the system so they and they alone control it...and so, they wreck health, education wages etc so the Middle Class gets wiped out eventually...or become Elites

    becomes a sick madness of demand to control and it ALWAYs explodes in your face: Rome; Czarist Russia; Soviet Russia; Britain, Imperial China, Imperial Japan etc etc
    Our leaders have the media in the palm of their handers spooning out their crap, it's NOT "left o r right" it's about "the ones in charge pulling the strings".

    Folk with ME, GWS etc show there's some seriosu problems, we're creating too many sick people, probably due to organopshopshates and vaccines...but they cannnot admit they are dangerous because they are lynchpins of the huge chemical/pharma power base. And the insurance ocmpanies don't want ot pay out anyone, ever. Governments have got liability for vaccines and many ministers when leaving office walk right into a job with the pharma and/or chemcial companies!
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  11. sianrecovery

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    Bloody hell Silverblade, the shame....I don't know what 'SOC' stands for. Put me out of my misery!

    Yes - UK gov a long history of sending working class soliders to forge an empire and fight wars and forgetting them when they come home.

    I don't know if I can get away with writing this to you - but I'm Welsh, and we love a good scrap. All the men I grew up could tell proud tales about the police they'd decked and how they could drink anyone else under the table. I thought you guys were kinda of like that, but more so?

    Doesnt mean we deserve to be patronised by The Weasel though!!!
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  12. SOC

    SOC Back to work (easy, part-time work)

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    That's me, sianrecovery. He was talking to both of us. :)
    SOC
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    wow - I could just do what everyone else does at this point, and plead brainfog. Or I could admit defeat, and say...that was dumb of me....:ill:. Or use my first ever emoticon.

    And Silverblade, I do understand the Scots are not one unitary mass. Some of you live in Edinburgh, just like some of us live in Cardiff. ;) Christ, this emoticon things a slippery slope eh?
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    SOC Back to work (easy, part-time work)

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    I'd go with the brainfog, myself. ;) And yes, emoticons are a slippery slope. For those of us who use a lot of facial expression and gestures in our communication, it can add clarity to our written conversation. However, like expansive arm gestures, it's easy to loose control of them. :):eek::redface::rolleyes:
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  15. sianrecovery

    sianrecovery Senior Member

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    ha ha :D:):lol::hug::thumbsup:

    why? because I can!
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    "SOC" yeah was reffering to the person ;)

    Cardiff? here was me thinking the Welsh lived with their sheepies like the Teuchters? :alien:

    Scots and Welsh soldiers used bayonet charges in Afghanistan and Iraq, respectively, well, we are mad Celts ;)
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    Metaphorically, at this moment, and I speak as a woman who hasnt had a drink for 16 years, I am slinging an arm around your shoulder, stumbling slightly, and saying, "You and me, mate, you and me, against the world....."

    sound familar? The other version is "Come over here and say that you ----- , Wesley, and then we'll see about your chess playing abilities..."

    oops - forgot emoticon - :mad:
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  18. SilverbladeTE

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    lol! ;)

    personally I was thinking not of a chessboard, but of a succulent potted plant from the Mojave desert, as a present for Mr Weasel:alien:


    cactusBalls.jpg
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  19. SilverbladeTE

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    Oh, to be used as a suppository, obviously ;)
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    sianrecovery Senior Member

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    suggest cholla cactus, or at a pinch, prickly pear

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