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Wessely honoured with a knighthood for his work for GWS and ME

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Countrygirl, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. GracieJ

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    British musicians have received knighthood for "what they did for the country," financially, by some accounts. Considering how much money has been "saved" by burying a disease... who knows?
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    Yep. Don't let it get to you. Jimmy Saville had a knighthood.
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    there was an interesting article on the bbc website about 2 years ago which I just found. Represenatives from a gulf war charity said by not classing gulf war syndrome as a distinct entity (Wessley says it is not an distinct illness but an effect, whatever that means) veterans could not claim compensation for medical negligence. Wessley saved a lot of money for the government with his work on Gulf War syndrome - and of course we know the flawed model he and his acolytes support of M.e has saved money too...
  4. Kati

    Kati Patient in training

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    anniekim, thank you for this, it makes it all clear.
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  5. anniekim

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    Actually reading through the article again (id post it here but haven't worked out how to copy and paste links on my i pad), the gulf war vets didn't say because Wessley claims it not a distinct illness they could not claim compensation for medical negligence but that the Ministry of Defence do not want to acknowledge gulf war syndrome as they don't want veterans to claim compensation. Earlier in the article it says how Wessley in his work on gulf war syndrome does not believe gulf war syndrome is a distinct illness but an effect. I joined up the dots...

    My rhetorical question would be why did the Ministry of Defence hire Wessley, a psychiatrist, to research gulf war syndrome? Did they hope he would do as he did and not class it as a distinct illness as say an immunologist would have if they had researched it?
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    Shouldn't this outstanding citizen also be given an award for his services to those affected by the Camelford Water Poisoning incident?

    In 1988 20 tons of aluminium sulphate were erroneously dumped in the water supply at Camleford. Professor Wessely allegedly dismissed all evidence and accused the sick Camelford residents of somatisation [hysteria], and accused the media of irresponsible reporting of this water-poisoning incident. Wessely apparently also blamed those affected of sensationalising their symptoms in order to get compensation.

    Two inquests into deaths revealed high levels of aluminium in the brains of the victims.

    http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120314145929AAcBbb4
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/14/camelford-poisonings-cornwall-inquest-water
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    Outstanding citizen - how about my postman who comes in all weathers in shorts (blow the cold).Do you think there are just too many good bods that the powers that be just lost their ability for seeing the wood for the trees.
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  8. Kati

    Kati Patient in training

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    There is this incestuous infatuation between certain media like BBC, SW and insurance company that I just can't stand.

    Wake me up from this nightmare...
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    The shame of it.
    I hate my country.
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    Problem is with my postman duckndive is that he feels he is simply doing his job to the best of his capabilities - what makes this nit SW any better.
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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Wow. He must pay his PR agent an awful lot.
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    Kati Patient in training

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  14. Enid

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    PR - bit of a smoothie, little bit of science and wango wonga land - what could dupe more. Yep their bullshit goes on - can we suggest retirement to holes in the ground - like my slugs might even welcome and advise better.
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    While I don't consider this as proof of anything, it fits with the notion of Zombie Science. Zombie Science is political or financial support of an hypothesis due to financial or political agendas rather than quality of the science.
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    I wonder what hand he's also had in "working closely" with some of the CFS charities? I feel sorry for the GWS people seeing he's so much infiltrated the groups with his beliefs.
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  17. heapsreal

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    I watched a weapons show the other day on tv, nothing to do with gulf war syndrome but they did talk about a bomb/rocket they used alot for tanks that had some type of radiation from it during the first gulf war. It showed many soldiers walking past these tanks after it had exploded, many looked through the tank etc and also the wind would blow the smoke from these burning tanks all over the place. It was mentioned that no training etc was given to these soldiers in how to deal with this, it was actually totally ignored, so many of these guys were exposed to the radiation of these bombs used for blowing up sadams tanks. Apparently it was a top secret weapon and not mentioned until a few years ago. Hey but if one just keeps positive and exercises and their symptoms ignored, radiation cant harm you and your bound to get a knight hood for hiding the dangers exposed to the soldiers in the gulf war, wow he really did do a service to the guys fighting for their country or maybe a dis service.
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    Heaps, I think this might have been depleted uranium shells. If any of it was vapourized or particulate it could be stirred up and inhaled.
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  19. Kati

    Kati Patient in training

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    Is next step sainthood? :angel:
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  20. In Vitro Infidelium

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    DU is a relatively low radiotoxic source, but may offer more serious chemical toxitcity. US army has monitoring in place, main problem seems to come from shrapnel (friendly fire events) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2702412/ http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA560601 and http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/7/1/303/htm Nothing especially secret about DU rounds, there's been public discussion since at least 1980.

    IVI

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