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Wessely congratulates himself again

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Min, Dec 15, 2014.

  1. Min

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    adreno PR activist

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    I liked this from the comments :

     
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    chipmunk1 Senior Member

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    I agree that is factually wrong. Some do get worse.

    yes but not trying to understand where the injury is doesn't help either.

    So this is how medicine operates? I think this is how psychiatry works not medicine...
     
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    I don't feel like giving my address to the Indie (oh my god, I've just realised that I'm a paranoiac!), but I did post a comment, and I would encourage others to the same. The problem is that journos like this guy like to write articles that stir up 'controversy,' so this is not a good way to get them to stop writing about Wessely in regards to ME, but then I don't think a letter to the editor will have this effect either. If they are good crappy journalists, though, they should work out that they can stoke this fire by getting an opinion from the other side, which is what I suggested they do in my comment.
     
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    I just read the journo's bio: Jeremy Laurance is a writer on health issues. He is former health editor of The Independent and the i and has covered the specialism for more than 20 years. He thinks the harm medicine does is under-appreciated, the harm it prevents over-rated, and that cycling works better than most drugs. He was named Specialist Journalist of the Year in the 2011 British Press Awards.

    I think he might be trying to get a job with Wessely, his brilliant mind is obviously wasted on journalism!

    "the harm it prevents over-rated" - I have to agree with him here, death is certainly over-rated, in fact it can be cured by just going cycling!
     
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    I liked this comment:

     
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    he was able to help by prescribing psychotherapy for serious chronic illness.

    Yes he did not claim it is all in the mind but treated it with behavioural therapy and he is a psychiatrist. But it is NOT in the mind and CBT is a physical therapy.
     
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    A great piece. I think that's it's a shame that this final, more personal passage had to be excised from the main text, but thanks to my connections within the scientific gutter press I can publish it now as the crowning glory of the article:
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    Is pretending to fight against the same thing you're actually promoting a known propaganda tactic?

    Pretending to be against stigma while promoting extremely stigmatizing ideas.
    Pretending to be helping patients while promoting policies and treatments that cause harm.
    Pretending to be on the side of science while ignoring the biomedical literature on ME/CFS.
     
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    We may mock him but many lives are being led, decade after decade, in intense suffering because of the policies of this man and his colleagues.
     
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    Wessely has used journalists to spread his propaganda before or after ME happenings before. For instance, he went public about the death threats 48 hours after publication of the MEICC back in 2011

    i published a blogpost about it back then and highlighted his tactics.
    This is a PR tactic to divert attention, this time around just following the P2P workshop.
    http://x-tremedenial.blogspot.ca/2011/08/uk-goes-crazy-seemingly-after-new-me.html
     
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    Annoying as it is reading his nonsense it may mean he's feeling under pressure for some reason. Hopefully good news on the way.
     
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    MeSci ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6?

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    Thank you - the laughter you provoked helped to defuse the anger the article aroused.
     
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    I read the title of this thread and thought he was congratulating himself for being nominated for a Darwin Award.
     
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    The title certainly fits very well, because. It is really like it is, isn't it?

    Which journalist would adorn him and decide out of the blue to dedicate an article on a psychiatrist?

    <crickets>

    Thought so.
     
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    Hmm, interesting "coincidence"? LOL

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    MEA response sent to the Editor of The Independent

    INTENDED FOR PUBLICATION

    Re: 'If we treated people with diabetes the way we treat those with depression, there would be an outcry'Independent: December 14, 2014


    Sir

    Having worked in hospital psychiatry, I know that mental illness can be just as horrible as physical illness and that people with mental illness still face far too many barriers when it comes to obtaining the support and management they deserve.

    However, as a doctor working in ME/chronic fatigue syndrome, I cannot agree with the way the cause and classification of this complex neuroimmune disease has been presented in this article as a mental illness.

    There is now robust evidence of ME/CFS being triggered by a range of infections and perpetuated by significant abnormalities involving key parts of the the brain, the immune system, the endocrine (hormone producing) system, and mitochondria (energy producing organelles) in skeletal muscle. The most recent biomedical model of ME/CFS causation, presented at the ME/CFS Research Collaborative conference this year, involves infection and immune system activation leading to neuroinflammation in specific parts of the brain which control cognition, fatigue, pain, sleep etc.

    ME/CFS is therefore included in the World Health Organisation International Classification of Diseases (ICD10 - G93:3) as a neurological disease - a position fully accepted by the Department of Health.

    So the proper place for assessment, diagnosis and management of these patients is in hospital-based units run by physicians who understand the complexities of the illness, and who are supported by a multidisciplinary team of health professionals.

    NHS referral services also have a duty to provide care and management for those at the severe (25%) end of the ME/CFS spectrum - people who are bedbound, housebound or wheelchair bound - and for children/adolescents, where this is one of the commonest causes of long term sickness absence from school.

    If people with severe diabetes or multiple sclerosis were being denied hospital based services, or domiciliary (home visiting) services, there would be an outcry.

    Yet this is what is happening on a daily basis to people with severe ME, where the availability of specialist referral services is even less than that for mental illness (reference).

    Consequently, many of these patients enter a state of therapeutic neglect because their GPs do not have the knowledge or experience to manage their condition. The charity sector is left to pick up the pieces.

    The scandal surrounding ME/CFS is far worse than the one involving mental illness.

    Reference:
    McDermott C et al. What is the current NHS service provision for patients severely affected by chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis? A national scoping exercise. BMJ Open, 2014, Jul 1;4 (6) e005083http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24984956

    Dr Charles Shepherd
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