I have had several times during this process when I have been able to lose weight easily. In the last 3-4 months I have lost about 12 pounds. This started as soon as I put an end to my folate insufficiency. When I am in folate insufficiency, the exact same diet causes me to struggle to not gain weight. Now, with no special effort except being willing to not increase food intake, I feel "hungrier" and am lossing weight at a slow steady pace. With exercise my muscles have started irebuilding again. The muscle gain and weight loss seem to happen when I get everything in balance with the supplements. If this happens the way it did last time the weightloss will fade away at about 20 pounds below my present weight and slows a lot as it approaches that. I know that this is one of the more difficult subjects all around becasue it gets at things around self acceptance in our society which make a discussion of body weight a touchy and emotionally trying thing. These deficiencies can cause wieght loss in some people and in others weight gain of typically waterlogged fat which can hide muscle loss. Exactly which happens and why in any given person is not exactly clear. For me the essential for this were mb12, adb12, Metafolin and l-carnitine fumarate, realizing that everything needed for cell formation is also needed for this, all the basics. But the weight loss and muscle building occur at the same time for me. It has happened once when adding mb12, once when adding adb12 and l-carnitine fumarate and finally, this time with getting the Metafolin at a level sufficient that all the insufficiency symptoms are gone. I am not clear on why this is happening in this way but glad that it is. If Rich or somebody understands what is happening here I would love to hear it.