Thanks Madietodd, appreciated Re bone broth. I made some a year back from beef bones and thought it would be tasty I don't know whether I was doing it wrongly, but mine tasted disgusting. Know it's very important though so must get my lovely carer to try making some again. Also Madietodd is it ok to buy bulk bones for dogs? On Jdj's new Facebook group for the wahl's diet she said a study has shown many bones can be contaminated with lead so I presume organic may be less risky, but not risk free?