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Vote Now, Vote Daily, Vote from Anywhere - Photo Finish in the Nature's Bounty Charity Contest!

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  1. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    Thanks for doing that, Kina - that's very reassuring for all of us! I think that could wipe quite a number of votes off the bird charity.
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    Thank you, Kina :)

    hopefully that doesn't mean disqualifying entirely people who lost track of time and accidentally voted too soon on occasion, but I think the software prevented this anyway (at least if one used the same computer)
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    helen41 Senior Member

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    I think they made it pretty clear they will not address the problem. I guess it is their contest, their money, their decision. We sent a few screenshots, including one of someone saying they were making up emails and voting 50 times a day and they responded "Thank you for your e-mail. We understand your concern and, should the program be run again we will be looking deeper into the charities submitted and how the contest is run and making a few changes, and will keep your comments in mind."
    We were ethical, and we voted honestly. I have my fingers crossed that we may have won a random prize
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    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    They replied the same to me, and I thought it sounded like they won't address the problem too.

    I have hope because of how they replied to Kina. In my reply they also said "We will be checking over email addresses to ensure legitimacy."
  5. Kina

    Kina Moderation Team Lead

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    I got that reponse too and my response to them was that I wasn't referring to future contests. I said I hoped they took the various screenshots they were sent seriously as it was unfair to those charities that voted honestly. I also mentioned that their privacy policy states they log IP addresses during voting and a comparison of IP addresses and email addresses would reveal cheating. I thought when I received the response Helen41 got that it was probably a standard response. I believe they are going to address the issue of cheating from the response I got in the last email. They are bound by Canadian (federal) laws that define the running of such contests and if they allow cheating, this would not be favourable for them from a reputation standpoint and a legal standpoint. If it came out that they awarded prize monies to a charity that came by the money dishonestly, this would not be to their benefit. I also doubt they would want to be investigated by the Federal government, so I believe they will be looking at the results very seriously. I am sure their legal department has instructed them to answer any emails regarding cheating the way they have been.

    That's my take.

    Kina
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  6. Mark

    Mark Acting CEO

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    The biggest thing I would want to highlight to them is to investigate the graph of the number of votes per day, the overall pattern of voting. The way it seemed to me, is that whenever we organised something that boosted our votes by a few hundred per day, and briefly took the lead, they immediately responded with one-off large jumps in their vote that preserved a consistent margin of a lead. I don't know how that was happening. From how it seemed to me, I would expect a graph of their votes per day to show sudden and unusual spikes of activity that weren't sustained as an ongoing increase in the number of votes per day.
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  7. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    There website currently says the votes are being reviewed - not counted, but reviewed. I take that to mean they are looking for illegal votes.
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  8. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    Just heard that Nature's Bounty awarded the National ME/FM Action Network a prize of $5,000!

    Man, I'm really happy about that. All that voting! That daily voting! They must have seen we were desperate. :D

    Well done and thank you to everyone who voted and roped in their friends and stuck with it, day in, day out.

    This has made my day! :)
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  9. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    We crossed! Well done to the Facebook Fundraising Group especially, who really put their backs into this - and thanks to you, Joel, and the others on this thread who kept bumping it up the list and encouraging others to vote. Lots of people put lots of work into this and it was a real team effort.
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  10. helen41

    helen41 Senior Member

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    wonderful!
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  11. snowathlete

    snowathlete

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    Thanks Sasha, but dont forget yourself! You wrote (Two?) articles to get the word out and I'm just an apprentice when it comes to bumping these important threads - you're the master! :thumbsup:
  12. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    Thanks - loads easier when there's not just me keeping things visible, though!

    Really pleased with this result. :)
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