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Vitamin C

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by burgeo10, Oct 26, 2017.

  1. burgeo10

    burgeo10

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    I wondered if anyone had any knowledge about Vitamin C? I currently take 6grams a day, and get a boost of energy in the 2 hours after I take each dose.

    Is there any risk to taking this much?

    I ask because I have low ceruloplasmin and low serum copper and do not want to negatively affect my copper situation.

    Thanks :)
     
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    drob31 Senior Member

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    I think it's one of the safest things you can take. Many recommend you try to reach bowel tolerance.

    Amoung all of the things it does, some of the most overlooked are mild thinning of the blood (most people have sticky blood), and this allows for better oxygen delivery. It also upregulates tyrosine hydroxylase which is the rate limiting enzyme that coverts tyrosine to dopamine.
     
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  3. burgeo10

    burgeo10

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    @drob31 very interesting i did not know about its effect on tyrosine hydroxylase. I worry that by taking Vitamin C I am effecting my copper situation. The low ceruloplasmin and plasma copper suggest not enough is bioavailable and I dont want to make that worse!
     
  4. pamojja

    pamojja Senior Member

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    High dose ascorbic acid (23 g/d for 9 years) didn't lower my copper. But it's always better to go for sure and measure it repeatedly when taking high doses.
     
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    ChrisD Senior Member

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    Vitamin C is my go to on a 'bad day'/crash, typically on these days I will go for a high dose to test bowel tolerance and in turn lower that overwhelming inflammation. But day to day I take around 4-6g.
     
  6. kangaSue

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    Contrary to popular belief, you can overdose on Vitamin C, particularly when you are having an "overdose" rate on a daily basis and can be as low as only 250mg per day but usually involves higher megadoses.

    You don't get a sudden acute event, more a gradual change in mineral ratios or the progressive lowering of other essential elements which, over time, can result in the development of moderate to serious medical problems.

    I've been taking a daily 500mg tablet for 16 years and only just realized last week from stopping it for a few days that I had a marked improvement in GI system upset and abdominal pain symptoms and starting back on the tablet only 1/4 of it brought back the symptoms within an hour.

    My Vit C level spiked to being way above the reference level coinciding with an increase in the GI symptoms almost 3 years ago but none of the several doctors I mentioned it to thought there was any issue to worry about.
    http://www.acu-cell.com/vitc.html
     
  7. NelliePledge

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    I used to get regular minor acid reflux at night til I read Dr Myhills info about vitamin C helping improve gut health I don't take very high dose just 1g am and 1g before bed. I can say that since I first started taking the vitamin C I've not had reflux at all.
     
  8. drob31

    drob31 Senior Member

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    I take 6-8 grams a day. It helps allot more when I take it then if I don;t
     
  9. pamojja

    pamojja Senior Member

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    Checked all my serum, whole blood and hair tissue mineral tests of the last 9 years again. No progressive lowering of essential elements - quite a few actually improved substantially. No further development of serious medical problems - but in fact improvement or even remission (a 60% walking disability) of a number of serious medical conditions (PAD, COPD1, CKD1, T2D).

    Of course, we are all different with different preconditions. However, the increase of your GI symptoms with such a low dose of vitamin C does indeed points to other issues. In no way does it give evidence to your blund statement reposed above, about alleged serious dangers of long-term high dose vitamin C.

    Popular belief isn't the same as personal experience. And from personal experience I must say everyone taking vitamin C has an acute threshold where GI symptoms start (usually a watery bowel movement with accompanying discomfort). It's called 'bowel intolerance' and can be very different for everyone, and in different situations. From a few hundred milligrams up to 100s of gram a day. If one stays below ones individual bowel intolerance no overdose - short or long term - is possible.
     
  10. Learner1

    Learner1 Professional Patient

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    Vitamin C is good for many things:

    https://riordanclinic.org/2014/02/h...s-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170109134014.htm

    https://irp.nih.gov/pi/mark-levine

    Vitamin C also works in concert with other antioxidants as part of "the Antioxidant Network," a term coined by Lester Packet who ran the world's premier antioxidant lab at UC Berkeley for many years. His book is a good read:

    https://www.amazon.com/Antioxidant-Miracle-Lipoic-Pycnogenol-Vitamins/dp/B000FNW8XO
     
  11. perchance dreamer

    perchance dreamer Senior Member

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    I do take vitamin C, but have to avoid it in the late afternoon and evening because it gives me insomnia taken that late.
     
  12. José Segundo

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    1 gram several times a day seems to be the best. Look attached.
     

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  13. pamojja

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    If you search for the studies that draw that plot one will find they tested doses up to 2.2 gram only, and extrapolated for the higher doses (up to 12 gram). However, found one other study which actually measured ascorbic acid serum levels from 0 to 20 gram per day, and found serum levels only thought possible via vitamin C IVs:

    Emphasis added by me. It's an all to easy to settle disagreement, since it is so cheap to test one own's levels :)
     
  14. Tammy

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    I've taken Ester C regularly.........about 5-6 grams daily for the past several years with no problems.
     

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