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viruses and gelatin

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by xrayspex, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. xrayspex

    xrayspex Senior Member

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    Say does anyone here use gelatin as a nutritional supplement? It sounds do potentially good for cartilage and bones and soft tissues etc but some info on internet says because of the arginine in it to stay away from it if you have a virus /hsv. What have people here found out with their health when supplementing with it?
     
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    You could just take some lysine to balance out the arginine, if you want to try gelatin. The reason arginine aggravates some viruses is because it changes the lysine - to arginine ratio in the body. Raising lysine, with supplements, will change the ratio back to being more equal.

    For example, people who are getting a cold sore (which is a kind of herpes virus), who start lysine supplements right at the beginning of getting the cold sore, usually have a shorter duration of the cold sore.
     
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    xrayspex Senior Member

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    thanks---here is the thing--I react really poorly to lysine supplements (very similar reaction to valtrex in the past) if I want a guaranteed pain fest I can just take a capsule of lysine---awful headaches neck pains etc not worth it

    I get bizarre reactions to many supps and meds
     
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    Arginine has been shown in one study to fight against herpes simplex virus 1. 1 And arginine protects against coxsackievirus B-induced tissue damage, at least in myocarditis. 1

    Someone proposed a hypothesis here that arginine may either inhibit or promote herpes simplex virus, depending on methylation status.
     
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    xrayspex Senior Member

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    hey I like that way of thinking hip...it reminds me also of how not all calories are created equally
    it does seem counterintuitive to think that gelatin, which is so healing to so many parts of the body would be inducive to bad viruses
    thanks
     
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    i have been taking Great Lakes gelatin about once a day for months, thinking it might help leaky gut. I have no idea if it's doing anything. Perhaps if I didn't cheat on my diet constantly, it would help more lol
     
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    I just got some too, had started taking the plain knox before that but then stopped it all when I read about all the arginine while I could try to ascertain if real concern or not.....
     

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