frozenborderline
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I think i only have low subclasses of IgG, unfortunately, not low total. I have some high subclasses, but I still would benefit from it. hope colostrum is as good
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Apart from the flu which was 100% flu rather than CFS, I am wondering if the other infections are just CFS flares but then if they were, would I have green mucus etc?!? It would explain certaintly why I was getting cold/flu in July August and September.I thought for several years I was getting 6-8 colds and flus a year, even in the summer and they would last 5-7 days each.
About 3 months ago I realized that by lowering the herbs I was taking to kill off a bacterial overgrowth in my gut, I could stop the "cold or flu" within a day or so, every time!
Since then I have also realized that these "colds and flus" often show up within a few days of me being more active physically. What I have learned is that they aren't colds or flus, they are actually CFS flares.
Usually being caused by too high a dose of herbs I'm taking, over-doing it physically or both. They feel EXACTLY like a cold or a flu but they are not.
If they were, I wouldn't be able to cut down their duration from 5-7 days to 1-1 1/2 days by lowering my intake of herbs and resting. They are also very different from PEM.
I used to take immune boosters like echinacea and astragalus when I started to feel those cold and flu symptoms coming on. Now I realize that they were actually prolonging my flares, rather than helping a cold or a flu!
EDIT- Another thing I couldn't figure out was why I was catching all these colds and flus. I would wash my hands after every time I went out and would often get sick without having any contact with anybody for days!!
Jim
Most ME/CFS patients seem to have increased immunity from catching the colds in circulation, but a smaller percentage of patients seem to catch everything going, this poll found.
You would seem to fall in the latter category, although are your sure the respiratory infections are not just the chronic or recurrent sore throat that is a known symptom of ME/CFS?
But the norm is for ME/CFS patients to have increased immunity from catching the colds. It's not clear why some patients become more susceptible to infections
Rich Van Konynenburg had a hypothesis of how this seemingly increased immunity to viral infection arises: he thought that because some parts of the immune system in ME/CFS were working under par, this resulted in other areas of the immune system getting up-regulated in order to compensate. In particular, Rich though that our first line in immune defense — the interferon alpha and interferon beta response — was ramped up in ME/CFS patients in order to compensate for weaknesses in other areas of the immune system (weaknesses in natural killer cell and CD8 T cell function).
If you have your first line in immune defense (interferon) ramped up 24/7, this may mean that any cold virus that happens to land in your mouth or respiratory tract may tend to get immediately eradicated by the interferon response before it has a chance to take hold in the body.
Low glutathione, either from it being used up too fast or being produced too slowly in methylation as Richvank pointed out, can cause impaired immune function.
There are numerous studies supporting this.
Jarred Younger, at UAB, found a subset of patients with immune dysfunction and another subset with chronic infections. At the OMF Symposium, he told me that there's definitely a subset who have infections and immune problems.
I'm one who had both, and boosting my immune function, while fighting infections has dramatically improved my function.
I’m just hoping I’m young enough to shake this immune problem before my old age lol!!!
I tried a whole host of natural immune boosters and immunomodulators and infection fighters, but spent a lot of money with little progress before doing IVIG. My immune sysyem was just too competent to fight snd I had 7 infections at the point I started IVIG.Have you tried taking Keifer or any other pro-biotics? We all tend to go for immune enhancing medication vit c etc when we feel we have a cold coming on but an important issue is gut microbiome. We don't tend to think of our guts as an organ ( they are just are intestines afterall) but they are a major part of our immune system and should not be overlooked.
I used to get loads of sinus infections and used antibiotics to clear them up. Laterly I used homeopathy which worked very well.
If I'd have known what I know now I would have in investigated pro biotics.....