There are many of us who have insomnia. Does anyone have it so bad that nothing helps? I have suffered with intermittant insomnia for many years. The longest was ten days with NO sleep but eventually Benedyl did work and I slept. Two years ago I had an MRII of my brain. Since then I have never been able to sleep. Once I took 30 pills of many kinds-thankfully mostly herbal. Valerian, melatonin, GABA, 5-HTP, and then Nyquil and even a xanax and ONLY slept three hours. This has been going on two years. If I do not rigidly keep my cut off at 5pm or 6pm to wind down, forget it. I never FEEL sleepy though I can be exhausted like a zombie. I think the MRI did something. I have olts of metals in my body and the MRI could have dislodged some of them. I was in a lot of pain after with legs cramps and bone pain for a long time. My point is this insomnia is horrific. I feel like a freak of nature because "if you are tired, you will sleep" is a crock. I work out, eat as good as I can considering that is about 3 foods, and relax as much as I can. Now I can get by with Ashwaganda herb if I mix it with GABA and melatonin and only do it once ina while. I know we have all talked about insomnia a lot, but I just feel like this is a permanent thing. Has anyone else had just a total inability to ever feel sleepy and sleep is so hard and such a struggle??! Has this happened after an MRI or other event? It was like a light switch turned off.