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UK: MEA calls for GET & 'false illness beliefs' CBT to be ditched as primary treatments for ME

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  1. Tom Kindlon

    Tom Kindlon Senior Member

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  2. Tom Kindlon

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    FWIW = For what it's worth (means I don't think it's as exciting as some of them)
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    This stuff is haunting to read. Someone outside the ME world needs to give this exposure.
     
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    I agree.

    A relative of mine worked at a secure mental health facility in the UK many decades ago. She said that she'd been down in the basement of the hospital and there were still shackles sets into the walls where they used to chain people up. I was horrified but, as I read some of this extracts, it's not looking so bad.

    What sort of human being, let alone "therapist", thinks it's okay to leave someone feeling suicidal when they are done? If you can't cure 'em take away their self confidence and self esteem. To make it worse these are the trained psychs & counsellors.....they must know the damage that they are inflicting.
     
  7. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Rebel without a biscuit

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    I find myself wondering about this periodically (healthy ppl's response to severe illness).
    It's almost like a fear of compassion. Afraid to be vulnerable to feelings of empathy and compassion that arise causes the antithetical reaction of abuse giving relief to the person experiencing the build up of strong emotion that they are uncomfortable with.

    It depends what kind of person you are which way you go with the emotions ie which you feel more comfortable expressing.
    I's like to see some psych research take up that as a subject to explore.
     
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    These are shocking.

    This idea runs throughout the patient reports. I wonder how it relates to the BPS crowd's insistence even to non-patients that they are taking the physical evidence seriously. In both cases I have trouble understanding how they are believing what seems to be contradictory ideas, unless there is bad faith and they really don't believe what they are saying. In any case there seems to be bad faith with the patients. It all stinks.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that one is mine :cool:
     
  11. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards A unique snowflake

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    Yeah, this is mine. I should clarify that increases in activity weren't anything sparkling, just reading on a stand and playing guitar very slowly; certainly nothing useful, and I had to cut half of it out again when I crashed badly at the end. Which I took ages to do as I'd got into a whole 'must do more' mindset with it and made things worse than they needed to be.

    "Very simple lifting having become too painful to do" basically refers to thick paperbacks and the like. Doesn't really bear thinking about now. Would have been much worse without herbs/acupuncture. Had absolutely nothing to say on managing difficult symptoms, which is why I got involved to start with. A fucking shambles and a nasty piece of work to boot.
     
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    This is sooo priceless, How can we publish where it can be read and follow for all those people that are questioning the release of the data.
     
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  20. Tom Kindlon

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    Not very surprising that this program didn't work.

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