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UK: DLA/PIP 'repeatedly, reliably, and safely' written into law!

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Firestormm, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Firestormm

    Firestormm

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    This success has come from a solid effort on the part of many charities I understand and will be a relief to many individuals who are rightly concerned about this new means of assessment for a disability benefit that is paid regardless of employment status :)

    From Dr Charles Shepherd of the ME Association earlier on Facebook:

     
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    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    Absolutely crucial, this, speaking as one who can lift a 1kg bag of potatoes. Once. On some days. :)
     
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  3. Finger in the proverbial dyke, helpful :) but no use against the inhuman tsunami of "NeoLiberalist" bullshit
    See the filth The Sun newspaper has been printing, they won't be happy until there is no Welfare State at all!
    I won't be happy until Westminster is destroyed and a crap load of MPs and especially, corporate sons of bitches, are on trial for Crimes Against Humanity and Mass Murder.
     
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    Disability Rights: PIP Factsheet now updated with above: http://disabilityrightsuk.org/f60.htm

    Very useful guide. From what it says - of the two rates - it would appear to grant more money per week that is currently the case for DLA.

    I receive low care and low mobility so presumably this would mean standard care and standard mobility under PIP - provided I still qualify of course.

    From my basic calculations I receive £160 a month at present and under the new PIP I would receive around £280 a month.

    Must be something wrong here. Presumably it will be harder to obtain 'standard' than it is currently to gain 'low rate'?

    Anyway, a useful document nonetheless and I need to read it more thoroughly I think :)
     
  6. In Vitro Infidelium

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    Much harder, though I haven't looked at the updated test proposals. The initial proposals for the low rate qualification, basically meant that anyone judged capable of using a wheel chair (irrespective of practical limitations or access to a wheel chair) would not qualify for standard rate PIP. And the Care element 'cooking test' of DLA was in effect to be done away with, under the PIP proposals so long as you could put a ready meal in a microwave you would be judged not to qualify. Of course these proposals raised a great dal of concern - I don't know if that has brought any alteration to the Government's plans. But PIP is most definitely not DLA mark2.

    IVI
     
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    I suspected as much. Still with the 'repeatedly...' etc. and in a reasonable time - I think there has been some attempt to address the imbalance. DLA did not take that phrase and what it might mean into consideration - at least not formally. At appeal I think the panel were more considering of it but certainly not the DWP. How they will apply said phrase will be interesting...
     
  8. Valentijn

    Valentijn WE ARE KINA

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    Are wheelchairs or other mobility devices (scooters) provided for separately? I was under the impression that DLA/PIP would help people somewhat in financing those sorts of purchases.

    And cooking microwave meals is much more expensive than home cooking. It sounds like something that DLA/PIP is designed to help with - you're too disabled to cook, so more expensive options are necessary.

    I guess this is just more screw-the-disabled-while-pretending-not-to "reform", justified with various illogical arguments. :cautious:
     
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    Yeah and microwave meals are sooooooooooooooooo healthy! Not.
     
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  10. In Vitro Infidelium

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    DLA when first introduced was actually a very innovative benefit - it was intended to place control over the delivery of care into disabled people's hands, so that they made choices about how they managed their lives, not social wokers or civil servants. It was always a weekly/monthly paid benefit, so in itself not intended as a replacement for capital grants that were also at one time available - however a separate scheme availble to those getting the higher rate of DLA was subsequently introduced - http://www.motability.co.uk/understanding-the-scheme/ . Unpowered wheel chairs are availbale for qualifying patients under the NHS - although the standard can be very 'basic'. It is quite possible that people will be judged able to use a wheel chair under PIP mobility assessment, but not to qualify for an NHS supplied wheel chair. Also someone may live in home where slopes/external stairs etc make non foldling/lighweight or unpowered wheelchairs imposible to use (the UK has a quite alot of low rise appartment blocks - 3 or 4 stories which have no lifts to give the upper floors ground access) Lack of practicallity will not impact upon the judgements under PIP.

    The problem is that under DLA the 'cooking test' was established as an objective test, unrelated to nutritional need, it was just an effective way of demonstrating capacity (or lack of) for a practical domestic activity. It has been one of the main qualifying criteria so therefore a target for change (PIP is designed to be available to less people than DLA). All they've done is move the bar on the test, so rather than 'peel, wash, organise, deal with heat sources' it's now 'reach, turn knob, reach'. The effect on those not qualifying is not considered, because they are judged to be not disabled enough to require care.

    The argument is a bit more subtle than that - it's about saying 'what counts' as disabled and 'who should be helped'. It's not so much screw the disabled as delegitmise certain levels/types of disability. The outcomes are obviously perverse, but for the two parties forming the coalition Government, the judgement is that these perverse outcomes will have no negative electoral impacts - the poor don't vote or at least they don't vote Tory or Liberal; and anyway the previous Government started the process so no matter how it turns out they can always be blamed.

    IVI
     
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    And they will slash Welfare Spending in the process (or will be seen to). Whether or not years down the line all of this re-jigging of the entire system will have been deemed as 'success' from the point of view of cost - remains very much to be seen.

    Can't wait for the 'universal benefit' system to hit. Because that WILL effect working poor and low-income middle class voters if it goes 'tits-up'. There is much riding on Ian Duncan Smith and not all of the pressure comes from Disability Lobbyists either.
     

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