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Trudie Chalder (PACE author) - CFS MUPS 13 - 16 SEPT 2017 - SLOVENIA

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  1. slysaint

    slysaint Senior Member

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    Included two Youtube videos for 'context'





    47th CONGRESS OF THE EUROPEAN ASSOCIATION
    FOR BEHAVIOURAL AND COGNITIVE THERAPIES
    13 - 16 SEPTEMBER 2017 / LJUBLJANA - SLOVENIA


    http://www.eabct2017.org/en/Trudie-Chalder.html

    A Transdiagnostic Approach to Persistent Physical Symptoms Focusing on Fatigue
    Scientific background and description of workshop:
    Medically Unexplained Symptoms (MUS) are defined as persistent bodily symptoms with functional disability but no explanatory pathology. Other terms include Somatic Symptom Disorder (SDD) which is used in the new Diagnostic Statistics Manual (DSM-5). This refers to persistent (6 months or more) and clinically significant somatic complaints accompanied by excessive and disproportionate health-related thoughts, feelings and behaviours regarding the symptoms. The somatic symptoms can be related to long term conditions as well as in the context of medically unexplained syndromes."

    Spreading the muck across Europe:moneybag:
     
  2. Ysabelle-S

    Ysabelle-S Highly Vexatious

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    Pure unadulterated ableism. There's nothing odd about people with untreated chronic illnesses having to think about their symptoms or behaviour. We have been abandoned by the healthcare system so we have to adapt ourselves to whatever works best until proper biomedical treatment comes along. Also, symptoms can be extremely debilitating, and detrimental to quality of life and basic functioning, and do not respond to the magical thinking brigade and their stupid suggestions. I am utterly convinced that the lack of personal experience when it comes to chronic illness (combined with endemic ableism) is the fertile ground on which this poisonous mentality grows. The stupidity is off the scale with this useless woman. It's like a straight person standing up and talking about how LGBT folk obsess over their oppression or rights, or a white person thinking people of colour have disproportionate thoughts on their experience of racism. They have no personal experience of the subject, and instead pretend they have some objective insight into our experience that outstrips our own knowledge, like the psych men of old who thought women were prone to hysteria. And of course actual science is nowhere to be seen. She is an utter quack.
     
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  3. Sean

    Sean Senior Member

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    Not to mention the sheer cruelty. :mad:

    And shamelessly proud of it. o_O
     
  4. Starlight

    Starlight Senior Member

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    So hard to listen to these blatant lies and especially to see the respect with which those doing the interviews are lapping it up. This stuff,this idiotic stuff is so damaging. Peddling her wares all over the place!!!!!.
     
  5. trishrhymes

    trishrhymes Senior Member

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    When I read poisonous crap like this, I can't help wishing the people selling this message would get a hearty dose of ME themselves. Try a year or two stuck in bed yourself, feeling like you've been hit by a bus and have a bad case of flu as well, then tell us we're having excessive health related thoughts etc.

    They have NO idea.
     
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  6. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge plodder

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    that would be poetic justice Trish
     
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  7. Demepivo

    Demepivo Dolores Abernathy

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    I wonder if there is a Slovenian ME Group, we could get chatting to... ;)
     
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  8. slysaint

    slysaint Senior Member

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    http://fmcfsme.com/support_group_database.php?c=Slovenia&s=Ljubljana&i=Ljubljana#support_groups
    Group Name:

    CFS&FM Support Group Slovenia: Drustvo za
    Fibromialgijo


    Group Web Site: Go To Web Site
    Group City: Ljubljana
    Group State/Province: Ljubljana
    Group Zip: 1000
    Group Country: Slovenia
    Group Phone: 07/49 64 179
    Group Email: Send Email
    Date Added: 2008-10-28

    http://www.skufmslovenija.org/

    eta: just sent them an email (hope they understand english!)
     
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  9. Demepivo

    Demepivo Dolores Abernathy

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  10. slysaint

    slysaint Senior Member

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    forgot to bump this........wonder how it went down in slovenia:(
     
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  11. anni66

    anni66 mum to ME daughter

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    @charles shepherd - this may be coming to a country near you soon... MEA statement may be a good idea
     
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