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Today's article in the Observer.........UK police and Wessely consider us 'dangerous!

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Countrygirl, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. Nielk

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    Is this legal in the UK?
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    This is Margaret William's take/history on Corporate Collusion - and seems to me to come back again and again to this small influential group of Psyches pursuing their own "agenda"regardless - I read personal ambition as much as anything else into it.Everything was very centralised then and relatively few controlled policy making bodies.

    http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/Corporate_Collusion_2.htm
  3. justinreilly

    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    This is like the press reporting that poor legitimate scientist Dr. Mengele who only wants to help is being "terrorized" by Jewish people who've had family members killed by him. This biased "reporting" is immoral. Let's tell these papers this is unacceptable.
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    Hey Enid,

    Thank you for posting this link. I knew about much of it, but to see it all documented is frightening and yet at the same time gives us hope for justice. Someone is doing a lot of work on our behalf and deserves our thanks.

    Greg.
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    There are some rather important differences.

    I hate Wessely, but things should be kept in proportion.
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    Hi, just a thought, is it possible for someone who is a UK citizen to contact the police and ask them if they have an official position on the "death threats". Rather than speculate about this, we will then have real information. If as I suspect they have no record on this, or no position, we should make this apparent in the public view. Bye, Alex
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    Hi Markmc20001 in answer to this question It's pretty safe to say is somebody is paying him to do it. I'm sure Wessley is perverted, but everybody needs to make a living somehow. Be hard for him to do what he is doing for all these years without some kind of government support.

    Hes paid by the UK government through the likes the Medical Research Council (MRC) he is also paid by the UK military and the US military, in the UK they have for a long time only paid people with mental health problems a benefit for two years before they get cut off, so it is in the governments interest to save money by labeling everyone possible as being mentally ill, hence them saying everyone with ME and CFS is mentally ill and denying them access to proper testing to prove otherwise, they are also saying that Fibromyalgia, irritable bowel syndrome and gulf war syndrome are mental illnesses basically anything there isnt a test for to prove its physical. The UK government has used the state secret act to stop any information on what Wessely and his colleagues have been up to, and have locked it away in files that are not available to the public for over seventy years.

    He and his collegues have also worked for major insurance companies, who dont pay out to people with mental illnesses, so their more than keen to have his nonsense imposed on the English, as they have been for the psychological view to be accepted in the US. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! Of course if they got of their butts and found a cure, there would be no need for benefits or insurance payouts, but this has been going on for decades now and they cant really get out of it without facing the risk of criminal charges and massive law suits. In the US the CDC have recently side stepped this problem by getting rid of Reeves, and publically admitting that ME and CFS are different diseases, so now they can just say that was Reeves and his administration, so sue him, unfortunately there hasnt been too much realization of the importance of the CDC announcement, but thats a different discussion that were having in the Defining moments the ME definitions tread.

    If anyone is interested in more detail on the UK situation it is all explained in this very large article by Professor Malcolm Hooper found here http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/magical-medicine.pdf and in a shorter one by him found here http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm funny how Wessley is so keen to use the press to belittle ME patients but hasnt got the guts to take a libel case out against Professor Hooper!

    All the best
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    I haven't been able to read through this thread yet, so apologies if I'm repeating stuff.

    In relation to the issue of the similarity with animal rights campaigners, Wessely has stated that he has never been the victim of violence, but only threats of violence, so it is misleading to compare the threats against Wessely with the activities of animal rights campaigners, who are portrayed in the media as violent...

    "...I've never been the target of violence, but I've been the target of threats of violence"

    Wessely says it here, at 01.45:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9550000/9550947.stm
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    On the radio this morning, I heard it stated that Cancer patients with a positive attitude have a better quality of life and better prospects than patients with a negative attitude. But I didn't hear anyone suggesting that Cancer is a psychiatric illness which would be best treated with CBT as a primary treatment. They didn't bring in Wessely to tell us that it is a psychiatric illness either. Strange that!
    http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/today/today_20110901-1112a.mp3

    I was very interested to read Hooper's recent letter that Wessely is ignoring an NHS mandate that insists that ME is treated as a neurological illness:
    http://phoenixrising.me/forums/show...article-Prof-Hooper-submitted-to-the-Observer

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