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Today's article in the Observer.........UK police and Wessely consider us 'dangerous!

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Countrygirl, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. ixchelkali

    ixchelkali Senior Member

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    Thank you! The examples they cite of "threats" only sound threatening because the article has just told you they're threats.

    This propaganda campaign against patient advocates has been brilliantly conceived and executed. Now anyone who is publicly critical of Wessely and his cronies can be dismissed as "crazy," extremist, and potentially violent. They are seriously dialing up the rhetoric against patients, using the same words used to describe terrorists. The comment about feeling safer in Afganistan and Iran was a particularly effective touch.
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  2. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

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    has anyone planted an actual bomb under Wessely's car? (some animal rights nutters have done that by the way against their targets, evil bastrds)
    has he been shot at by a rocket propelled grenade? I'd have thought that'd be on the news if so, RPGs can blow up a tank, nto somehting almsot anyone in the entire UK has access to.
    has his home been invaded by a gang of ME patients wearing suicide bombs and shooting everyone with AK47s? We're too sick and we are NOT freakin' Al-Qeda!

    So for him to say this:
    Is a wicked, vile bloody disgrace.

    Any of you seen the BBC video where the reporter/camera man, are with a patrol, who find their way blovked by IEDs, and a poor sod steps on one of the booby traps?
    he go both legs and one arm blown off, and was left with only a few fingers on one hand.
    THAT is Afghanistan. THAT is the place Wessely said our guys are not suffering unusual amounts of PTSD, despite seeing their mates losing their limbs etc with no damn warning, and having IEDs all over the dman place.
    As about any soldier will tell you if you ask 'em, booby traps are their #1 fear, fighting is bad but you can shoot back, you can understand it, but booby traps are without warning, you can't fight back and do very ugly damage: huge difference, and so, they scare folk and they often cause serious brain injuries on those who survive 'em.
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  3. Dolphin

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    There's a lot of coverage of the story on Twitter

    There's a lot of coverage of the story on Twitter - not sure how many but hundreds of tweets anyway. @bengoldacre sent out a message and it's been re-tweeted a lot today. :(
  4. Wildcat

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    The persecutors playing the victim is truly disgusting - what on earth has happened to our country?

    Are our media taking revenge on ME sufferers because our British media have recently been exposed as totally lacking in values and morals re the phone tapping?
  5. Wildcat

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    Ah, yes. The overgrown schoolboy Ben Goldacre putting the boot in ME sufferers on his Twitter.
  6. Roy S

    Roy S former DC ME/CFS lobbyist

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    I'm not getting anything from this link except a blank screen. What has he written?

    http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre

    I'd say we are being used as scapegoats, whipping boys (and girls), and weapons of mass distraction.
  7. currer

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    You could find it is related to this

    http://www.meassociation.org.uk/?p=7713

    The 15th comment down by MSjustice.

    People are getting very emotional and taking this personally - as is understandable.

    But it all forms a nice logical and rational picture if you follow the money.
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  9. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    That's the link. I made a bit.ly link for the link and one can see other bit.ly links for the same link. This has 63 re-tweets. And bit.ly page only seems to pick up some of them e.g. I've had messages re-tweeted before and only a small fraction (maybe 1/4?????) are picked up - so perhaps re-tweeted by 250 (??) people, each with their own followers.
  10. Wildcat

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    Ah, so there are now nationwide alerts of the dangers from housebound and bed bound physically sick women, men and children.




    The hypocritical Guardian has published a piece about the hidden but big suicide rate of chronically physically sick people, today.


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/aug/23/suicide-chronic-illness-study
    At least one person takes their life every day while suffering from a chronic or terminal illness, and the government is neglecting this hidden trend, the thinktank Demos has said.


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/joepublic
    Suicide prevention: The government is unwilling to collect sufficient data
    Demos collected and supplied the evidence on deaths by suicide that the coalition wouldn't because without full information they can't set the best policies





    Id suggest the government is itself aggravating the situation by unleashing the no-morals corporation ATOS on chronically sick and disabled Britons.
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    But we all know what Tweeters can be like - troublemakers. We have a genuinely delightful game called cricket. The commentator's Twitter has been plagued with nut cases and personal rudeness. I place bengoldacre firmly in this very unpleasant category.
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    I am willing to spend my money to buy him a one way ticket!
  13. Enid

    Enid Senior Member

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    Let's do it Nielk - I could donate a few pennies - this W Media Circus is not good for anyone's health.
  14. justy

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    I couldnt agree more -follow the money. If only we could get a really good journalist in the U.K to do just that and actually get published!
    Pie in the sky dreams im afraid.
    Justy.
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    If there's one thing I'd like to say to Wessely, than that's likewise.

    I would feel better with bombs and bullets flying over my head than being sick with CFS having some non-listening pseudo scientific "CBT expert" eagerly perform his experiments on me. And to quote Wessely; I don't say that as a joke.
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    He and his cohorts days thankfully done now as research findings pour in - he and cronies so wide of the mark (still trying to pull the wool over everybodies eyes).
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    Nice as it would be to ship Wessely off to a warzone, I think we need to look at the bigger picture:

    Is it fair to inflict him upon relatively innocent soldiers and extremists? Sure, they aren't perfect people, but the punishment of being exposed to Wessely would far exceed what their crimes might warrant.
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    Find an independent journalist now.
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    **sigh** You're right. [dropping pennies back in piggy bank]


    I'm thinking he'll have a lot more than a bunch of exhausted housebound ME patients to worry about if he starts playing his silly psycho games on soldiers. If he thinks WE'RE scary, what's his imagination is gonna cook up about a bunch of angry war-stressed vets and their families?
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    As soon as he have done some years of CBT on innocent GWI soldiers, I am guessing they will revolt. GWI is after all, pretty much the same as CFS.

    And than he's back to media spotlight, another group who doesn't understand his genius...

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