Violeta
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You can find what gets it out in the link to the paper by Gubarev. Meds don't kill them; they are not alive. The enemas work because they get them out.
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Got a minute? Go to the 9:15 mark and watch for a little over a minute. Reminds me of the saying, "A picture is worth a thousand words". The entire Kerry Rivera video is about 50 minutes long, and I've only watched the first ten minutes or so. She comes across to me as very credible, and I look forward to watching the rest of this.
What Does Autism Recovery Look Like?
I've come to the realisation that sometimes a person is unable to grasp the idea that some treatments make people even iller and this for a long period of time (even permanently). Those are the people who are usually the most critical when a patient they do not know expresses some concerns or reservations.Peggy-Sue, if you have been ill for such a long time then why would you say, "I am not going to do any enemas, not for any reason!". I doubt a person that really wants to get well would say.
I've come to the realization that sometimes a person is sick for so long, the illness becomes their identity. Sub-conciously they cannot see a different life and the shedding of their particular ailment. Those are the people who are usually the most critical when a new idea on a treatment surfaces.
Actually the second link he posted ( http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2087443#I ) are quite clear and magnified - and doesn't look like worms at all.The pictures are not in the best of focus, but I see no features of worms - are there any magnified images showing any physical worm features - segmentation of the body for example? or any hooks for attatching themselves? Some feeding features?
Something a scientist could take a proper look at - under a microscope.
.I personally think the opposite about people who are careful and thoughful about the 'treatments' on offer. It shows that they understand that a treatment can have three types of outcomes: positive, neutral OR NEGATIVE. For some very strange reasons, some people think that by definition a negative outcome is always temporary (but positive outcomes would last...). The reality is much more complex and subtle.
It's still a chemical used as a disinfectant. And if you're a pigeon, it may take a good whack at your thyroid levels: http://www.pnas.org/content/83/5/1485.shortChlorine Dioxide is NOT bleach. Its chemical composition is different.
Tito, I am not trying to be scornful. And I agree with you for the most part. However, my post was addressing the patients who DO NOT take the time needed to really research a treatment and right away bash it and discard it. That not only negatively affects themselves but other readers on these boards who might benefit from the treatment but don't have the energy to do the necessary research and rely on these boards as a one stop shop.
I'm a bit skeptical about that discovery.
First, the Ph.D.'s
Development stages of the “rope” human intestinal parasite
Submitted to arxiv.org on Jan. 13, 2013
Alex A. Volinsky, Ph.D a*, Nikolai V. Gubarev, Ph.D b, Galina M. Orlovskaya, RN-C c, Elena V.
Marchenko, M.D., Ph.D d
a Department of Mechanical Engineering, University of South Florida, Tampa FL 33620, USA
b Occupational Safety Ltd. (OOO “Bezopasnost Truda”), 32 ul. Koli Tomchaka, suite 14, St.
Petersburg 196084, Russia
c Department of Surgery, St. Petersburg City Hospital No. 15, 4 Avangard St., St. Petersburg
198205, Russia
d Currently no affiliation, Formerly research volunteer at H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center and Research
Institute, 12902 USF Magnolia Drive, Tampa FL 33612, USA
A. Alex A. Volinsky - Ph.D. in Engineering
B. Nikolai V. Gubarev, Ph.D.
OOO “Bezopasnost Truda”: _http://bezopasnost-truda.spb24.net/
Quote from: Google translation
Accredited Testing Laboratory Ltd. "Industrial Safety" provides the following services: Certification of working conditions at work, certification of labor protection, industrial inspection, audit, management, health and safety.
The offered products / services:
Certification of working conditions at workplaces, certification of labor protection, industrial control
Contact page:
_http://laboursafety.ru/kontakty.html
E-mail: nvgubarev@bk.ru
Director, an expert on labor conditions, Ph.D. in Engineering Sciences Gubaryov Nikolai V.
C. Galina M. Orlovskaya - RN-C (Registered Nurse, Certified) - No trace on the Internet. Neither in English, nor in Russian
D. Elena V. Marchenko, M.D., Ph.D - according to the paper, "currently no affiliation". On the net, one result in English (with no degree specified)
_http://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S0219519405001308
Second, the video and Prof. Volinsky...EFFECT OF THE MYOCARDIUM NON-UNIFORMITY ON THE HEART FUNCTIONAL RESERVE
ELENA V. MARCHENKO
Department of Diagnostics, Institute of Transplantology and Artificial Organs, Moscow, Russia
one in Russian (a Word document with a Conference program):
Not sure that's the same person.Workshop “NEW APPROACHES AND TRENDS IN LOGISTICS”
Chairperson: Ph.D. in Philology, Professor Vera A. Mayevskaya
Vice-chairperson: Ph.D. in Psychology Associate Prof. Natalia E. Gorokhova
Assistant: Elena V. Marchenko
_http://www.eng.usf.edu/~volinsky/FunisVermis/
- He is an engineer, but has a Russian wife who has a degree in endocrinology (right, it makes him more credible)
- Wikipedia as the main source for his lecture
- "I think that Dr. Gubarev with his pathology friends in Russia has some evidence that maybethat is the case that they do feed on blood." - very convincing and scientific statement...
- "Stage 3 - 99% Human presudogene" Did he mean "pseudogene"?
- I'm not a biologist, but his optical microscope images, DAPI Stain Eucariote images and the electron microscopy images don't seem to prove anything. Mucus cells have DNA, are eucaryotic, so it what way the images (of whatever is there) can lead to the opposite conclusion? I'd be happy to hear more about those images from someone who understands what he is showing on those pictures and what he says. Anyway, we still have his word only.
- The DNA analysis shows human sequences. How does he reach the conclusion it's worm's?
- Gubarev's book - seems to be a fotoshopped cover with a typo:
_http://www.amazon.co.uk/Helminths-Unknown-Gelminty-izvestnye-neizvestnye/dp/5903984061 (Helminths, not Helminthes as on the video). No mention the book is available in Russian only.
- Volgograd Bureau of Forensic Expertise image. Here the fumis vermis looks differently so... it must be it!
- Autistic children - forum for parents who allegedly cured their autistic children with MMS (!). Volinsky uses their page on parasites and claims they cured the kids by getting rid of the worms (those rope worms, homo fumis vermis, or perhaps funis vernis).
- Second last screen: "Nikolai V. Gubarev patented three enemas in Russia to remove the worms from the large intestine..."
- Last screen: "Chlorine dioxide (CD) balances the redox potential of the mitochondria (increases the membrane potential of the mitochondria)." No, thank you.
There is more in the video that I didn't like. Looks like a possible scam to me.