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Titrating Ad-B12 and L-Carnitine

Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by arx, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. arx

    arx Senior Member


    How should one go about titrating adb12 and carnitine? I started off with adb12(Country Life 3000mcg Dibencozide) about 12 days back, starting with taking a quarter sublingual for 3 days,then half for 3 days and then a full sublingual tablet for the next 6 days.I have been taking 4000mcg of mb12 daily for the past month.
    The order in which I take supplements is :

    B -Complex-> Metafolin -> Mb12-> Ab12

    I did face a lot of startup after adding Adb12 and I still am. My experience is as follows:

    Physical startup includes:

    -twitching and buzzing sensations in spine and head region
    -nerve pain which lasts for a short duration in random regions(head,spine,toes,fingers,legs)
    -intensified shortness of breath

    Mental startup includes:
    -mental process over-stimulation( racing thoughts, confusion)
    -emotional instability at times(anger,rage)
    -memory and concentration problems
    -inability to relax
    - vivid and complicated dream patterns( further aggravated by melatonin)
    -non-restorative sleep
    -wired/over-stimulated and tired feeling
    -brain fog

    Other experiences:
    - increased need of methylfolate
    - increased need of potassium
    - found 'some' moments of increased energy, but it is insignificant(4-5 hours) when compared to the duration of taking adb12(12 days)

    Most of the above symptoms were already present before adding adb12, but adb12 intensified them.

    Now,the following are some questions I have:

    1. Is adb12 supposed to work in this manner? Should I consider myself in the 'hypersensitive' category as Freddd has mentioned. Is this downswing a positive sign?(the perception that things getting worse are a sign of healing)

    2. Does ATP startup explain the effects mentioned above?

    3. What dosage of adb12 should I maintain now? I have taken 1 sublingual(3000mcg) daily for about a week and would like to know how much to take now.I've read that people take it 2 to 3 times a week. I don't know if I should keep taking one sublingual daily and what to expect in terms of startup/detox effects.

    4. I also would like to add Acetyl L-Carnitine( I have the Doctor's Best capsules).I've read that adb12 and carnitine are meant to work together.What should be the initial dosage and frequency of L-Carnitine and order in which it should be taken?
    Freddd has recommended to take it on an empty stomach,right? I am planning to add the carnitine in two days or so,or should I wait more?

    Also,if you have some experience with adb12 and l-carnitine, please share. It will help me a lot.


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