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"The results they really didn’t want you to see: key ME/CFS trial data released" (The Canary, Oct 2)

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    We are the main story on their homepage.

    I don't know much about The Canary, but I do see them discussed a lot on-line as an influential lefty news source. I think that they're now bigger than a lot of widely known magazines like The Spectator and stuff.
     
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    He is a Forensic psychologist
     
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  5. Esther12

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    My partner just pointed out that it's really amazing to have such a good piece promoted in a way that means it's likely to have a really wide reach, and I don't seem to realise it.

    This PACE stuff has been getting bigger and bigger in a way that means I can take it for granted, but this piece is really on our side, really well referenced, and has a great chance to attract yet more attention. I think that knowing all the details means that we can forget what a crazy and dramatic story this is, if we can just get people to start looking at the evidence instead of trusting authority figures.

    My dad e-mailed me because he was excited about it being in The Canary... must be good news!
     
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    The PACE story sounds like some crackpot conspiracy, but it's true!

    A David vs Goliath scenario.
    Researchers that manipulate the study protocol.
    A smear campaign to silence critics.
    The science media center was an accomplice.
    A prestigious journal overlooks all the problems with the study.
    Sinister conflicts of interest in the background.
    A legal battle with false accusations and dirty tricks.
    The truth comes out... and widely held beliefs about treatment effectiveness turn out to be false.
     
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    I think that has been part of the problem for us. We need to make it sound less bad than it is before anyone will believe us!
     
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    It's kind of why I wish this piece was somewhere other than The Canary. They'll believe this stuff anyway, it pushes all their buttons - conspiracy; government corruption; dodgy corporate interests. It's almost wasted on them.
     
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  11. Esther12

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    Maybe they're on to something?

    Who knows how many times we've wrongly dismissed other people's concerns for being too conspiratorial sounding?
     
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    Yes, but it isn't the point. The point is that it doesn't make our message any more credible than it is already.
     
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    I can't wait 'til the movie comes out!
     
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    Sue Marsh on our side. Now that calls for credibility talk of a whole different order... :)
     
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    Sue Marsh writes for the guardian or something?
     
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    Some probably know a lot more about her than I do, but I see that she has 11K Twitter followers and a blog at https://diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.com. She describes herself : "Occupation: Sick Person! I have a rare form of Crohn's Disease. I was diagnosed 21 years ago.[....]I have children that I often can't look after and a husband who often looks after me. Our lives are disrupted daily by the misery of a chronic condition."
     
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    Yes but she now works for Maximus (DWP WCA) and is on 75K a year.
     
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    I'm currently up to 1207 times.
     
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    Pssst! My secret source actually says it's 1936. :)
     
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