I only meant to refer to 'open minded' in a relative way. We're all more or less open minded about different topics. I'm pretty closed minded about homeopothy - maybe in twenty years time we'll be working with a new form of physics which will have validated the homeopaths, but currently I just think of it as a placebo and psychological aid. It's often reasonable to be closed minded, and I quite understand those who were especially badly affected by the psychological lobby or GET now being closed minded about further claims as to the efficacy of GET, CBT, etc. I'm still unsure as to what level of scepticism is warrented, and think it's quite possible I'm being unreasonably open-minded in my own approach. I've found GET to be of no use for myself, although I did not find it to be as severely damaging as some of the people here have reported. I'm certainly not pro-GET and CBT. I'm not doing them because I don't think it's likely they'll help me. From my understanding of your post, I don't think we really disagree about anything significant.