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"The Placebo Effect" (from 2008) (Science-Based Medicine)

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    And if there is no compelling evidence of curative properties, then that brings into question the flip side of that alleged causal pathway – the nocebo – the proposition that mood and thought can create disease.
     
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    Following the observation that people in a clinical trial take better care of themselves--people who are thinking "bad thoughts" are less likely to take care of themselves. Because why bother? etc etc
     
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    Also (as I'm sure you agree), as someone who developed ME/CFS gradually over two years, I think biological changes often precede changes in mood.

    I.e. the disease starts first, then this subsequently has an impact on mood.
     
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    One of the comments says:
    The link is broken but I found it:
    It is 12 minutes long.
     
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    The podcast refers to this study:

     
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    There's also a 2010 update that is a bit more positive for placebo, but not much: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20091554

     

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