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THE EMBARGOED STUDIES REDUX by Mindy Kitei

Discussion in 'Media, Interviews, Blogs, Talks, Events about XMRV' started by Mindy Kitei, Jun 30, 2010.

  1. Mindy Kitei

    Mindy Kitei

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    I just posted a new article "THE EMBARGOED STUDIES REDUX" on my blog, CFS Central, with some new info about the CDC study and the FDA/NIH study.

    Mindy Kitei
    CFS Central
    http://www.cfscentral.com
     
  2. Frickly

    Frickly Senior Member

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    Thanks Mindy!
     
  3. gu3vara

    gu3vara Senior Member

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    Yup, thx for that, interesting :)
     
  4. KnightofZERO

    KnightofZERO

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    Thanks for another excellent contribution. My first thought is the CDC couldn't find it in any positive controls, or any sample for that matter but they were going to publish anyway, until recently.... how arrogant!
     
  5. Otis

    Otis SeƱor Mumbler

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    Hey, the CDC at least got the negative controls right..... :D
     
  6. glenp

    glenp "and this too shall pass"

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    Ty for this Mindy
     
  7. Bob

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    So the CDC's negative study was reportedly unable to find any positives at all... which suggests failure of methodology (Typical of all failed studies to date).
    And the FDA/NIH study reportedly found 7% in the normal population, which means that this is not to do with cohorts, but methodology.
    If this was to do with cohorts, then the CDC would be able to find XMRV at least in some samples, but they just can't detect it at all, reportedly.
     
  8. bullybeef

    bullybeef Senior Member

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    Thanks Mindy!!

    So basically the CDC are either inept or dodgy (probably both)!!!
     
  9. Bob

    Bob

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    If only that demonstrated at least the tiniest glimmer of competence!!!... :(
     
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    thanks! :)
     
  11. CBS

    CBS Senior Member

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    Like the proverbial broken clock that's right twice a day (except theirs is a digital and the backup battery was dead a long time ago).
     
  12. usedtobeperkytina

    usedtobeperkytina Senior Member

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    Mindy, I read two sentences and said, "Yes!" I knew that either you or Amy at WSJ had a source that knew the figures. I saw y'all dancing around it. I thought to myself, someone outside of the insiders has to know. Some insider with all this other information that is public has to be talking and surely they are being asked. Often a reporter will agree to hold back in order to keep trust of that source giving other information, sometime depending on how soon the hold back information is expected to come forward.

    I see you got the figure first. Hope your source is strong. With such a statement, would have to be very strong or have two sources.

    Thanks for taking the time to ferret out this info for us. Looking forward to more.

    Tina
     
  13. usedtobeperkytina

    usedtobeperkytina Senior Member

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    Mindy, "my sources" is vague from a news reporting standpoint. Can you tell more about these sources? Someone at the journals? Someone at the agency who saw it? Someone who participated in the study? Another scientist that saw it?

    I don't want you to get your source in trouble as we need more leaks. But, would love some more info about how close your source is, is it firsthand?

    Tina
     
  14. jimbob

    jimbob ME/CFS84-XMRV+

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    Who's deep throat?????
     
  15. judderwocky

    judderwocky Senior Member

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    .... it kinda makes you wonder what else they're missing over the years....
     
  16. jimbob

    jimbob ME/CFS84-XMRV+

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    Like I've said before, I hope the CDC chokes on their own vomit, seriously!!!
     
  17. judderwocky

    judderwocky Senior Member

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    well... if they run out of any... ive got extra.
     
  18. usedtobeperkytina

    usedtobeperkytina Senior Member

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    Ok, we got a volley going now, some healthy competition. Amy, the ball is in your court now.

    What do you have for us?

    Tina
     
  19. ixchelkali

    ixchelkali Senior Member

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    Thanks, Mindy. Your blog is becoming the go-to for the low-down. Thanks to your sources, too.
     

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