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The Comorbidity of Self-Reported Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, and Trauma

Discussion in 'Latest ME/CFS Research' started by Dolphin, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    Somebody just highlighted to me that this hadn't been posted

    Free full text: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3343192/

     
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    Dolphin Senior Member

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    I think a prospective study would be better to answer such questions.

    When people get ill, they can look for reasons why they got ill and focus on them, while healthy people can forget about the same exposures (I recall reading some evidence on this - it was something like people who lived beside chemical plants growing up remembered this better if they got cancer than their neighbours who didn't get cancer (or something vaguely like that)).

    Also, since getting ill, when I look back, minor incidents can shake me up. It's probably to do with being weak now and sensitive to stress. It doesn't necessarily mean the incidents were actually than stressful at the time (I have mentioned before remembering a neighbour complaining to us for playing ball on the road rather than the green when we were maybe nine or ten (so not young children); really not a very stressful event and something I forgot about afterwards but it has occurred to me a few times since becoming ill). People's mind may regurgitate stressful events from the past for whatever reason - I think something like that has been found in people with chronic pain.
     
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    When I was at my worst, my nervous system out of control, I definitely was suffering from a form of PTSD. Everything in my environment triggered me, every sight of things that had once pleased or frustrated me. It's eased now that my CNS has calmed. But I still avoid engaging w/ things that represent my past.
     
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    "Self-Reported" Chronic Fatigue Syndrome ? How many were told by their GP they suffered from chronic fatigue, and conflated fatigue with CFS?
     
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    JAM Jill

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    My illness caused my PTSD.
     
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    How doctors treat us has also been claimed to cause PTSD. We have even been subjected to consistent, authority driven, enforced abusive treatment, such as in hospitals or during forced treatment during sectioning.
     
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    A traumatic childhood is correlated with poorer health outcomes across the board.
     
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    In addition to the vicious social stressors PWME are subjected to, there may be plausible biological explanations for the comorbidity between PTSD and ME. For instance, Martin Pall has hypothesised that PTSD is one of the syndromes (along with ME, FM, MCS and Gulf War Illness) perpetuated by a dysfunctional NO/ONOO (nitric oxide-peroxynitrite) cycle.

    Useful experimental paper here.
     
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    Yes, the authors have failed to take into account the systematic abuse and neglect we receive from the medical profession after being diagnosed with our neurological illness.

    Every symptom we present with is dismissed as 'all in the mind' (I spent three years being offered antidepressants for symptoms of what turned out to be a large kidney stone) and we are patronised and sneered at rather than helped
     
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    Eh. GIGO. This is not just a poor study, imo, it's a bad one. It suggests people with our condition are typically folks easily and dramatically intimidated - or at least that's how I imagine the average layperson would translate it. So, instead of moving beyond that bullying case, we are more likely to be traumatized by it. It's not the disease, silly, it's our inability to escape our genetic predisposition to crumble under the weight of a mean and unfair environment.
     
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    JAM Jill

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    Don't forget the surgeries. I've had 4 unnecessary and unhelpful surgeries. Very traumatic.
     
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    I grew up thinking that doctors were men and women of science. I now realize there is more science in astrology that in many clinics.

    It would be interesting to see the results of a similar study conducted in a society that treats *all* sick people with respect, if indeed such a society exists today.
     
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