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Sussex mother on trial over daughter's ME death

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Min, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. Min

    Min Senior Member

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    today's news:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8454280.stm

    "The mother of a prominent ME sufferer has gone on trial accused of attempting to murder her seriously ill daughter.

    Bridget Kathleen Gilderdale, 55, of Stonegate, near Heathfield, Sussex, denies the charge.

    Ms Gilderdale pleaded guilty to a charge of aiding and abetting suicide at Lewes Crown Court in July 2009.

    She was arrested after her daughter Lynn, 31, who had chronic fatigue syndrome, was found dead at their home on 4 December 2008."

    The offences are alleged to have taken place between 2 December and 4 December 2008.

    Relatives said Lynn Gilderdale battled ME for 17 years and was left paralysed by the illness.

    After Ms Gilderdale was charged, her family said she retained their "unconditional support".
     
  2. Min

    Min Senior Member

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    "Kay's Trial - First newspaper reports, Monday 18 January 2010

    This is opening day for the prosecution


    'Devoted mother helped kill ME daughter with lethal drug cocktail and syringes of air' (Daily Mail, 18 January 2010)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...thal-drug-cocktail-syringes-air.html?ITO=1490

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    ME mother 'helped daughter die' with morphine syringes (BBC News Online, 18 January 2010)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8466112.stm

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    Court hears case against mother accused of attempting to kill ME sufferer daughter (Sussex Argus, 18 January 2010)

    http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/4856...d_of_attempting_to_kill_ME_sufferer_daughter/


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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6992680.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

    Mother, Kay Gilderdale, in court over death of ME sufferer daughter, Lynn (The Times, 18 January 2010)

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    More as we get them

    Suggest you do not discuss details or express emotions.
    I will forward any messages of support for Kay.
    With love & best wishes
    John
    drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org
    ME Free For All. org "
     
  3. Min

    Min Senior Member

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    "ME Free For All.org" <drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org>
    "Kay Trial - Day 2 newspapers, 19 January 2010 (continues from prosecution yesterday. Defence starts today)

    ... continues from prosecution yesterday. Defence starts today ... The Times, Sussex Argus, London Evening Standard, BBC Online News ... more as we have them


    'Loving mother' helped daughter to kill herself (Daily Mirror, 19 January 2010)

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...ped-daughter-to-kill-herself-115875-21978082/

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    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/809581-loving-mother-helped-daughter-to-kill-herself

    ‘Loving mother’ helped daughter to kill herself (Metro, 19 January 2010)

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    Mother 'helped daughter to die with lethal drugs cocktail' (Independent, 19 January 2010)

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...--die-with-lethal-drugs-cocktail-1871978.html

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    'Devoted mother' on trial for helping daughter die (Guardian, 19 January 2010)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/18/kay-gilderdale-lynn-attempted-murder

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    Start of Defence here (Some people may find details upsetting)

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    Father of ME victim Lynn Gilderdale defends ex-wife as incapable of murder (The Times, 19 January 2010)

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6993897.ece

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    Father of ME sufferer daughter "killed" by mother says she was determined to end own life (Sussex Argus, 19 January 2010)

    http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/4858...ther_says_she_was_determined_to_end_own_life/

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    Father: ME daughter was determined to end her life (London Evening Standard, 19 January 2010)

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...was-determined-to-end-her-life-says-father.do

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    ME daughter was 'determined to die' (BBC Online News, 19 January 2010)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8468537.stm

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    (Australia is a day ahead, remember)

    Devotion led to helping suicidal daughter (Sydney Morning Herald, 20 January 2010)

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/devotion-led-to-helping-suicidal-daughter-20100119-mj7e.html

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    More as we have them,

    Thanks for all your messages of support for Kay
    Have forwarded them all immediately.
    The messages waiting for her are piling up.
    I'm sure that she will find some comfort and appreciate that you were thinking about her.

    Love & best wishes
    John xx

    drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org
    Dr John H Greensmith
    ME Free For All. org"
     
  4. Min

    Min Senior Member

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    Kay Trial on BBC TV South East, tonight (19 January 2010):

    Hope this works for you.

    Click here http://www.bbc.co.uk/southeasttoday/

    Click on orange text "Latest Programme" to open BBC Media Player

    Click Launch this in stand alone player

    Starts about counter 12.45

    (slide blue bar, bottom left to just before this count to get a good start)

    John
    drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org
    Dr John H Greensmith
    ME Free For All. org
     
  5. Min

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    Kay trial - Day 3 newspapers - Suicide research on the Internet

    This is the theme of today. No one has put "Dr Death" in a headline ------ yet!

    http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/Accused-mother-39researched-suicide-methods39.5998857.jp

    Accused mother 'researched suicide methods' (Yorkshire Evening Post, 20 January 2010)

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    Mother researched suicide on Google before daughter's death (Daily Telegraph, 20 January 2010)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...suicide-on-Google-before-daughters-death.html

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    Kay Gilderdale trawled net for euthanasia after daughter's morphine overdose (The Times, 20 January 2010)

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6995366.ece

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    Mum accused of trying to kill ME sufferer daughter "had researched suicide methods" (Sussex Argus, 20 January 2010)

    http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/4861...er_daughter__had_researched_suicide_methods_/

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    http://www.ryeandbattleobserver.co....-mother-researched-suicide-methods.5999287.jp

    Accused mother 'researched suicide methods' (Rye & Battle Observer, 20 January 2010)

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    More as we get them.

    I have forwarded all the messages of support, from all over the world, for Kay to her.
    They are piling up (she is rather busy at the moment!!) and I'm sure will be a great comfort
    to her.
    Love & best wishes
    John
    drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org
    Dr John H Greensmith
    ME Free For All. org
     
  6. I hope she won't go to jail, she cared for her daughter 24/7 for nearly two decades - when the state refused.

    I cannot think of anything worse if I was a parent of giving your own child an overdose, that they ask for. Then during the act, it going wrong, and having to effectively finish the job off. (It would be akin to hitting a baby seal with a spade that you cherish and adore). :( A double hell experience.

    Surely all the prejudice/discrimination and disbelief over the label 'ME' will be ignored by the jury?
    I hope so.
     
  7. Mithriel

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    It is so heartbreaking.

    Mithriel
     
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    End of Life Assistance (Scotland) Bill

    May be of interest

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8471553.stm Videos as well have a look

    End of Life Assistance (Scotland) Bill

    HOW THE BILL WORKS
    person must be terminally ill or "permanently physically incapacited"
    Request must be made to and approved by doctor and psychiatrist
    Both must be asked twice after 15-days cooling off period
    Assistance must be supervised by the approving doctor
    Close friends and relatives banned from administering drug
    Only over-16s qualify
    Applicants must be registered with Scottish GP for 18 months
    Bill does not apply to those with dementia or other degenerative mental condition

    A bill aiming to give terminally ill people the right to die has been published at the Scottish Parliament.

    MSP Margo MacDonald, who has Parkinson's disease, brought the bill to make it legal for someone to seek help to end their life.

    It is not illegal to attempt suicide in Scotland - but helping someone take their own life is against the law.

    The MSP wants terminally ill people to be able to ask willing doctors to help them die at a time of their choosing.

    The independent Lothian MSP's End of Life Assistance (Scotland) Bill would allow people whose lives become intolerable through a progressive degenerative condition, a trauma or terminal illness to seek a doctor's help in dying.

    HOW THE BILL WORKS
    person must be terminally ill or "permanently physically incapacited"
    Request must be made to and approved by doctor and psychiatrist
    Both must be asked twice after 15-days cooling off period
    Assistance must be supervised by the approving doctor
    Close friends and relatives banned from administering drug
    Only over-16s qualify
    Applicants must be registered with Scottish GP for 18 months
    Bill does not apply to those with dementia or other degenerative mental condition
    The bill has also proposed a series of safeguards to prevent abuse of the legislation, should it become law.

    It also proposes that doctors with religious or moral objections would not be obliged to help any patient end their life.

    Launching the bill, Ms MacDonald said: "There are many other people that have progressive degenerative conditions that are much more vicious than mine.

    "This bill is meant to redress that unfairness to give those people the autonomy to exercise some control over how they die to give them the legal right to seek assistance and to protect the people who would give them assistance."

    Pro-life campaigners have strongly opposed the idea of assisted suicide.

    The Care Not Killing association has urged MSPs to proceed with "extreme care and caution" when considering the bill.

    However, Sarah Wootton, chief executive of Dignity in Dying, said the bill was an "important opportunity for a much-needed debate".

    She said: "People want choice and control at the end of life. Without a safeguarded law regulating choice over how and when we die, many people will take matters into their own hands.


    Michael Lynn, who cared for his terminally ill wife, supports the bill
    "This problem must be addressed, otherwise we are effectively condoning people travelling abroad to die, 'mercy killings' and suicides behind closed doors."

    In order for the bill to become law, it would have to be scrutinised by a Scottish Parliament committee system, before facing several votes

    Unlike the majority of proposed legislation which comes before the Scottish Parliament, the bill would be decided by MSPs in a "free vote", rather than on a party basis.

    In England, the director of public prosecutions has indicated he was unlikely to take legal action against those who assist the suicide of friends or relatives who have a settled and informed wish to die.

    No such guidance has been given in Scotland, but Ms MacDonald says public opinion on assisted suicide was changing.
     
  9. Min

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    "ME Free For All.org" <drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org>
    Kay Trial - Newspaper reports of proceedings for Friday 22 January 2010

    in some newspapers dated Saturday 23 January 2010

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    Court told how ME sufferer was sexually assaulted (Kent and Sussex Courier, 22 January 2010)

    http://www.thisissussex.co.uk/news/...assaulted/article-1746238-detail/article.html

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    Mother 'tried to ease pain of ME daughter', court told (Daily Telegraph, 23 January 2010)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...d-to-ease-pain-of-ME-daughter-court-told.html

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    Mention of Kay in other current stories:
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    Mercy killing mum Frances Inglis tells of how she would have faced the death penalty to stop her son's suffering (Dail Mirror, 23 January 2010)

    here http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...of-his-misery-frances-inglis-115875-21988879/

    Final paragraph:

    A jury was told yesterday [Friday 22 January 2010] mum Kay Gilderdale "crossed the line" between trying to help her desperately ill daughter commit suicide and trying to kill her. Gilderdale, 55, of Stonegate, East Sussex, denies attempted murder.

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    More as we have them.

    I have already forwarded a great many messages of support
    for Kay to her and I will do for anyone who wants to her
    to know that we are all thinking about her.
    Love & best wishes
    John xx

    drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org
    Dr John H Greensmith
    ME Free For All. org
     
  10. Min

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    (N.B. the UK is about 8 hours ahead of America)


    PERMISSION TO FORWARD, RE POST AND USE IN NEWSLETTERS

    "A lovely idea from Jean Harrison and all the members of MAME:

    On Monday 25 January 2010 at 8pm, your time, we all join in a
    a "prayer" or "good thoughts" wave ... where everyone thinks of Kay.
    That way she will be hit by wave after wave of good thoughts/blessings.

    Love & best wishes
    John
    drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org
    Dr John H Greensmith
    ME Free For All. org"
     
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    I am so relieved.

    Mithriel
     
  13. Min

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    "PERMISSION TO FORWARD AND RE POST ANYWHERE

    Kay NOT guilty !!!! (25 January 2010) -- Part 1, First responses newspapers


    First responses in Newspapers, approx 3pm GMT, 25 January 2010.

    Continuous coverage on Sky News

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    Mother cleared in ME death trial (BBC News Online, 25 January 2010)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8479211.stm

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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7001494.ece

    Kay Gilderdale cleared of attempting to murder daughter with ME (The Times, 25 January 2010)

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    Mother cleared of trying to murder bedridden daughter (Guardian, 25 January 2010)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/25/gilderdale-cleared-attempted-murder-daughter

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    Mother cleared of trying to murder sick daughter (Independent, 25 January 2010)


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...f-trying-to-murder-sick-daughter-1878570.html

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    Mother cleared of trying to murder sick daughter (Metro, 25 January 2010)

    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/810331-mother-cleared-of-trying-to-murder-sick-daughter

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    Mother Kay Gilderdale found not guilty of murder attempt on ME sufferer daughter (Daily Telegraph, 25 January 2010)


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...f-murder-attempt-on-ME-sufferer-daughter.html

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    Devoted mother who helped kill bed-ridden ME daughter is cleared of attempted murder (Daily Mail, 25 January 2010)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ughter-cleared-attempted-murder.html?ITO=1490

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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ared-of-daughter-death.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

    Mum cleared in ME death trial (The Sun, 25 January 2010)


    First responses. More continuously as they come in.

    Messages of support and good wishes piling up for Kay now.
    Will forward as soon as we can

    Love & best wishes
    John xx
    drjohngreensmith@mefreeforall.org
    Dr John H Greensmith
    ME Free For All. org"
     

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