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Supplements that help with Adrenal Fatigue on Hypoglycemics

Discussion in 'Adrenal Dysfunction' started by Peyt, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. The Chronicals

    The Chronicals The '59 Sound

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    Some good points definitely.

    I have balanced out at 2.5mg four times a day. I dont need to 'mimic' a cortisol curve as I dont have one, the idea is that I slowly add support to my body with the synthetic cortisol, im not trying to 'rest' my adrenals like STTM claim, just help my body find a natural balance knowing it has SOME of the hormones it needs rather than giving it 'all' and downgrading production.

    Ive been without for so long, my receptors are so sensitive anyway.

    My liver problems I think are the key to my issues - I have recently switched to Dr Wilsons Adrenal Rebuilder as I just cant tolerate the Miladregen - and Ive found vitamins are actually my problem. I dont have any issues with the rebuilder - so the clearance of the metabolites from the vitamins are the problem. However I dont tolerate any liver cleansing other than a dropper full of Milk Thistle liquid three times a day, anything above that is over stimulating and then crash.

    I am highly copper toxic - I tried copper detox without being stronger and it almost killed me!

    Lol, Pregnonelone - turns me batsh*t crazy of hyper up overemotional super anxiety weeping in my head but wanting to fight a war in my body - for me, Preg turns to adrenaline, not cortisol.
     
  2. drob31

    drob31 Senior Member

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    The reason Preg has this effect for me, is because it's going down the DHEA > Androgen > Estrogen pathway.

    I had some bloodwork done after being on 100 mg for 1-2 months and my estrogen was double what it normally is.

    Also, I can't buy the "adrenals fatigued" argument. I believe that the HPA-axis is off, and unless there is a physical issue with the glands, they are ready to go, they just need the right signals.
     
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  3. The Chronicals

    The Chronicals The '59 Sound

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    100mg of Preg? lol. When i mentioned my reaction to it - that is on 1-2mg :) 100mg would literally send me to an asylum!

    I do believe HPA dysfunction is a huge part of it, however, neurotransmitters, hormones, all made by the adrenals, primarily the cortex. If they are exhausted, they can't produce them - this is why many of us have hyper active nervous systems, and without the neurotransmitters to calm a system, overdrive prevails, and then eventually liver malfunction, cant rid the adrenaline - vicious circle.

    I'm fairly confident this is how it is for me.

    I don't like how loosely the term Adrenal Fatigue is thrown around though, people with CFS get labeled with AF because they are 'tired' . - AF can literally be the opposite of that sometimes.

    AF is a strress disorder as Hans Seyle represented in his GAS theory. AF is General Adaption Syndrome in medical terms. Excellent work and such a shame it wasnt properly adopted into medical textbooks - if it where Doctors would be so much more helpful and knowledgeable.
     
  4. The Chronicals

    The Chronicals The '59 Sound

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    Not sure what you mean?Thats what AF generally is, HPA dysfunction (for whatever reason it is)

    Look up General Adaptation Syndrome by Hans Seyle, will explain it all very well.
     
  5. The Chronicals

    The Chronicals The '59 Sound

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    Basic version of his model.
     

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  6. Learner1

    Learner1 Professional Patient

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    Having read and read and read everything I could on adrenal fatigue awhile back, I was always puzzled why my situation didn't fit neatly into any of the models. For some of us, there's simply not a neat progression.

    I'm not so sure they're fatigued either... though everything I've seen does say the HPA axis is off... I suspect its due to infections, autoimmunity, altered biochemical pathways with bottlenecks and shortages of ingredients that got used up somewhere. And likely its going to be different for each of us...

    There's info out there that says pregnenolone can help cognitive function and reduce our brain fog. Mine was low, so I started supplementing 10mg, and it helped. My doctor had me try 150mg and my estradiol went through the roof, complete with a myriad of excess estrogen symptoms.

    I've found the hormones don't always neatly follow the pathways they're supposed to...its prudent to test and react to the results if in doubt. I find I need DHEA and testosterone, too...
     
  7. gettinbetter

    gettinbetter Senior Member

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    Seems reasonable to state this
    Why does it happen though I'm wondering ?
     
  8. picante

    picante Senior Member

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    You said you had high cortisol. Hypoglycemia is a result of low cortisol. Of course, it can be a roller coaster; I've had my share of that.

    I started HC myself in March. It's definitely stabilizing my blood sugar, but I can make it plunge by taking T3, LOL. I decided to take my tiny dose of T3 in the afternoon, because in the morning I need ALL of the HC dose just to get up and do basic morning stuff (food and grooming, e-mails).

    Where did you get the idea of taking cornstarch?
     
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    picante Senior Member

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    What symptoms do you get that indicate liver troubles? Are you saying your liver is not detoxing it?
     
  10. drob31

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    Preg did work for my brain fog and "woke" my brain up.

    I wonder if using an aromatase inhibitor with preg would help. Something like DIM at a high enough dose.
     
  11. Learner1

    Learner1 Professional Patient

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