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Supplements for word finding and speaking?

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by SickOfSickness, Jul 1, 2016.

  1. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    My ability to speak has gone downhill because words aren't coming to me as easily. It's not only word finding problems. I'm stumbling with grammar more.

    What supplements or vitamins might improve this symptom?

    I stopped eating some foods to save money, so this might be related to a new deficiency I developed. I also have worse allergies lately. But I've been going downhill with language for years, and maybe it's not related to anything I changed. It seems like the only symptom which has gotten so much worse in the past few months.

    I don't feel like it could be from a medication or supplement. I haven't started anything new or stopped anything.

    I'm used to having the possible phrases enter my mind, and then I can hear them silently before I speak them, all in a half second. Now I'm too slow. I don't want to look slow, so I start speaking, and that's when I make spoken grammar mistakes.

    It's embarrassing because I have to meet some new people soon, and I don't want them to misunderstand me. Also in typing this, I am making grammar errors, with verb tenses, plurals, etc. I'm fixing them before I post, because they're embarrassing.
     
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  2. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    Acetyl-L-carnitine (ALC) may be your answer.

    I read a study some years ago which found that ALC helps retrieve words, and helps with those tip-of-the-tongue moments, when you know there is an appropriate word for your needs, but you just can't bring it to mind. The study found ALC makes it easier to fish out the right word.

    Before I developed ME/CFS, I used ALC precisely for this purpose, and I can vouch for the fact that when you are writing, it does help the right words spring to mind more easily.

    Now with ME/CFS, I take ALC daily because I find it helps reduce the inflammatory feeling in my head. I suspect it may help with the ME/CFS word retrieval problems as well.


    The most economical sources of ALC are the bulk power suppliers, such as purebulk.com and www.myprotein.com.
     
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  3. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Thanks :) I took ALC a few times in the past months, but I'll start taking it a lot more, and maybe higher doses.

    I am worried it's allergy related too, which I may not be able to improve soon.
     
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  4. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    @Hip Oh I have been using L-Carnitine Fumarate, not ALCAR. Would that work the same?
     
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  5. Theodore

    Theodore Senior Member

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    Vegepa (100% EPA) helped me with this
     
  6. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    No, that won't work; it has to be ALC.

    It's the acetyl molecule on acetyl-L-carnitine that allows ALC to cross the blood-brain barrier and enter the brain. Other forms of carnitine don't cross the blood-brain barrier to any significant degree.

    L-Carnitine I find gives me some energy, but it's only ALC that works in the brain.
     
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  7. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    That's interesting, I am going to be trying VegEPA soon. I have a box of it sitting on my shelf.
     
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  8. Groggy Doggy

    Groggy Doggy Building a New Home

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    Electrolytes help me. I drink one large glass in the morning, one before going to bed. and two glasses during the day (when my minds starts going blank). I drink on an empty stomach for best benefits. I tried about 4 different brands so far, and still keep trying new ones, and so far this one works for me the best, VegaSport Electrolyte Hydrator
    I think others on PR benefit from electrolytes (they recommend 'nuun Electrolyte' and 'EMERGEN-C ELECTRO MIX')

    GD :dog:
     
  9. Groggy Doggy

    Groggy Doggy Building a New Home

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    Thanks, I will purchase some today.
     
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  10. frog_in_the_fog

    frog_in_the_fog Test Subject

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    Looks like Pure Bulk is having a sale right now, so this is a great time to stock up. Thanks for the tip!
     
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  11. CFS_for_19_years

    CFS_for_19_years Hoarder of biscuits

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    I function much better verbally when I take 5 - 10 mg PQQ in the morning. I use Source Naturals PQQMind brand, and cut the 20mg tablets with a pill-cutter. Some people say it makes them feel speedy, so start with a low dose, and take it before noon so that it won't cause insomnia.

    https://examine.com/supplements/pyrroloquinoline-quinone/

     
  12. taniaaust1

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    Unfortunately I havent yet found anything which helps with all the speaking and typing mistakes I do. I dont even stop and try to listen to my thoughts as that just makes me make even more mistakes putting more focus/effort onto it which tires me way too fast... so I just let it all like come out of my fingers and mouth with no thought.

    the only deficiencies which correcting has helped my brain some has been the methyl B12 and molybdenum. Keeping well hydrated also helps my brain some too (maybe you're blood volume has dropped or dropped further? any changes in your heart rate and pulse and what they do?)
     
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    Hi Hip! Did you try it?
     
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    Hip Senior Member

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    Not as yet, it's still sitting there on my shelf. I have too many medications to try, and only one me to try them on.
     
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  15. Theodore

    Theodore Senior Member

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    Lol. Okey!
     
  16. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Thanks everyone. ALCAR seems to be a good help for me. @Hip
     
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  17. Dufresne

    Dufresne almost there...

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    I got a huge boost in memory and the ability to express my thoughts from choline (phosphatidylcholine, 420 mg X6/day). However like most things that increase my energy I eventually paid for it. According to Dave Asprey PC works for about two-thirds of people. Might be worth a try.

    I think cerebral perfusion is something else to consider; so vasodilators and blood thinners. Ginkgo and garlic can be quite powerful together, but you want to work your way up slowly or you risk a bad headache. Aspirin, vitamin E, serrapeptase, bromelain, etc can be added for blood thinning.
     
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  18. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Great.

    I know I was deficient in choline for a while, then I was getting enough, and back and forth. I have been supplementing a little with choline bitartrate. I'm not sure if it's helping with speaking, but it helps some other symptoms. Do you know if that form of choline is fine or inferior?

    Good to know. I'm very prone to headaches, so I can't use most of those, but I'm getting far too little vitamin E. When I can get some, I bet that would help me overall.

    Serrapeptase is interesting!
     
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    ALCAR with the combination of ALA. I took this for 2 years during the time I was taking on a lot of responsibilities with estate management for my parents. My brain was "ON"- I couldn't believe how much it helped. I had to stop for a while though because it was making me feel jittery and affecting my sleep.

    I will probably go back on them again soon.

    I want to mention that Dr's.Best formula's worked for me. I tried other brands before but it didn't seem to have the same affect.
     
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  20. SickOfSickness

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    Thanks. I will have to add ALA. I'm glad it helped you a bunch for 2 years!
     

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