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Suicides soar in the UK as evil government slashes help and support

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by SilverbladeTE, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

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    http://www.thecanary.co/2016/01/28/suicides-soar-22-mental-health-service-cuts-hit-home/

    and yes, the British government Is "evil", it's obscene that the Front bench of both labour and tory from last 30 odd years or so, and especially the current Tory Cabinet, aren't in jail or hanged!
     
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  2. Marco

    Marco Grrrrrrr!

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    Hey credit where credit is due. Thanks to the "hard work of some Liberal Democrat MPs."

    http://www.theworkfoundation.com/blog/2481/Betting-the-budget-on-mental-health

    http://www.libdems.org.uk/mental_health

    On line CBT for ESA and JSA claimants! Makes ya proud to be a liberal.
     
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    Antares in NYC Senior Member

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    That is downright Orwellian.
     
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    improving access probably means sending them a link to a CBT brainwashing app.

    Why do they even bother with this? Just declare them a moral failure and the problem is solved.
     
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    Every year I become a little more willing to believe that suicide is a deliberate government policy for dealing with Useless Eaters. Certainly in the US if a person threatens to kill theirself, the cops are more than willing to finish the job.

    Recently there has been a number of media stories warning about the millions of jobs soon to be displaced by more automation. Those stories don't tell us how Our Dear Leaders plan to deal with all those unneeded and unwanted workers.
     
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    When is bad policy resulting in mass death counted as genocide?
     
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    It depends on who is doing the counting. When one of Uncle Sam's vassals is doing the killing (like Saudi Arabia in Yemen) it is always "unavoidable collateral damage". When mass murder is committed by a U.S. enemy du jour, they are, of course, "The New Hitler". History is always written by the victor, by definition, since the losers aren't around any more.
     
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    But.... CBT. One hit panacea. Government sets up access to it then it's not their fault you don't get better. Who needs welfare? We've got CBT! If everyone keeps believing it's all we need...
     
  9. SilverbladeTE

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    as Jimells notes...and wee lesson from history:

    the vast majority of Stalin's victims did not die by execution, gulag, torture etc...they starved to death/died from diseases arising from starvation.
    Largely this was deliberate policy, it was genocide (to break any dissent especially in the Ukraine), and also partially it was down to Stalin's egotism putting Lysenko (a "Wessely" of botany) in charge of agriculture/science, plus the loony Soviet's "system" making a complete shambles of organizing food production and distribution.

    also a great many died from all kinds of accidents and disasters as civil servants/engineers/officials who warned of problems etc got "gulaged" or neckshot or exiled for upsetting Stalin and the Party bosses, leaving jackasses in charge of things, resulting in screw ups at an unprecedented scale.
    There's no official figures/records just from what I've read, serious accidents in factories, bridge collapses etc became almost commonplace.

    Which is roughly what is happening across the English speaking Western nations as fascist/corporate jack assess took power in the UK, USA, Canada, Australia.
    Orwell assumed "1984" would be a Stalinist nightmare...in reality the real danger is from the opposite side of the political coin as wealth = power = ability to manipulate society unscrupulously.
    There's no need of "Room 101", when fear of losing your pension/mortgage keeps most peons in line!

    All kinds of systems for keeping society at an "even" moderate keel are or have been wrecked.
    Allowing jackasses to run things they haven't the ability for (Ian Duncan Smith!), reducing safety (privatizing services at a hydrogen bomb store...OMFG!) etc

    So, the UK's "S.O.P." of denying a problem when folk are harmed, has spiralled up to huge proportions, it's become a literal "industry".
    They have actively prevented a treatment for our illness, and GWS, and many others, that's genocide both in terms of numbers and exterminating an entire "class" of people.
    not death by gas or bullet, but by deliberate neglect, deliberate prevention of research treatment or cure
    by withdrawing/reducing welfare disabled people need to live on
    etc

    the language and attitude of the UK government is that of abusive fascist thugs.
    Normal differences of opinion on politics, economics etc are one thing and certainly not worth fighting over.
    This is different though, this is life threatening.

    it's the old story of the frog in the cooking pot...
    if you raise the temperature slowly, the frog won't realize it's cooking until too late!
     
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    The leaders in "Red" China were similarly incompetent. Mao decided they could increase agricultural yields by killing all birds near grain fields because they might eat some of it. So the peasants expended huge efforts to kill millions of birds. This resulted in an explosion in the population of the insects that were no longer being eaten by birds, so the end result was yet another famine and lots of dead Chinese peasants.

    Humans have been organizing themselves (by force, of course) into rigid hierarchical empires for thousands of years, and they always end in collapse and chaos. Is this really the best we can do?
     
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    A solution for unemployment of CBT therapists?
     
  12. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

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    Despite yearning for a benign Western socialism, I know that or any other system we'd make would degenerate due to Human nature
    only answer I've heard of that sounds practical and humane is "democracy by lottery"
    pick folk at random, no xenophobes criminals etc, 1 term only

    thing is by creating "hierarchies" we ALWAYs create corruption, entrenchment, elites...that destroy everything in the end.
    so we have ot get rid of the idea of perpetual social elevation nd power
    just pick folk at random, breaking entrenchment
    gives very different and REAL world views, not some jackass who thinks he should rule the world as he was born with a silver spoon up his ass :p
    etc
     
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    Until lions have historians, history will always be the hunter's.
     
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    It's a cull. They know full well what the consequences are of these policies.

    They can't just line us up and shoot us any more, so they starve, impoverish, humiliate, and drive us to suicide. All done with their hands on their hearts, shedding crocodile tears, and blathering on about strivers versus skivers.

    But same end result.
     

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