I became concerned about taking oral NSAIDs for pain relief in my shoulders. I've also been disappointed with topical creams such Asperecream, Biofreeze, and Trixaicin HP. But then I mistakenly ordered some Aspercream Max, which turned out to be different from Aspercream. It is based on menthol, which has not impressed me in the past. But this one works. Maybe because it contains 16%, which might be higher than other products I've tried. Also, it's a roll-on, so I don't have to get it all over my hands, or use protective gloves. This stuff works on my shoulders, but not my wrists or thumb. So I'm wondering if anyone has a fav topical they like. I prefer a roll-on, for ease of use. But if you know of a wonderful non roll-on, I'd like to hear.