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Sub-typing daily fatigue progression in chronic fatigue syndrome

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Ember, May 3, 2012.

  1. Ember

    Ember Senior Member

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    Leonard A. Jason & Molly M. Brown
    Center for Community Research, DePaul University, Chicago, IL, USA

    Posted online on May 1, 2012.

    http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/09638237.2012.670879

     
  2. roxie60

    roxie60 Senior Member

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    nice to see they are at least trying to gather data. My hats off to those CFSers that volunteered to give herculian effort to report their symps.
     
  3. searcher

    searcher

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    I am curious to find out how the groups differed in immune functioning. In my first year with CFS I was in group 1 since I never had any obvious variation in the unrelenting fatigue, but I would now say that I am in group 2.
     
  4. taniaaust1

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    When I was in my second stage of this illness (after this illness for 9-12mths) .. I certainly would of been group 1. Im curious if that group is more so early ME/CFS? .. I was then in that group 1 catagory for years.

    I dont know where I fit now but not group one and I dont seem to fit in with those other groups either so Im going to propose a fourth group to which would fit me ..

    -Low fatigue
    -high variability with (symptoms) intensity (which may include fatigue but has other symptoms far outweighing the fatigue, so fatigue may not be noticed)
    -with fatigue (and other symptoms) increasing over time or staying the same (depending one what had been done)

    (over time with this study seens to be only a 1 day or week period)
    Does anyone else here also not fit into the catagories looked at in that study and fit better into the one I just made up?


    Im so glad they didnt just look at fatigue! I too are looking forward to reading about how the immune fuction varied.
     
  5. jimells

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    I know I'm a relentless wet rag, but really, I can't imagine a more useless study. How much money did they waste on this? This strikes me as 1) Publish or Perish 2) Use the grant money or lose it 3) A student with no imagination working on their thesis

    There is so much junk research out there, it's hard to believe. And it all ends with the same conclusion: "More research (and grant money) needed!"

    Still, my hat's off to all those folks keeping the logs. I wonder how long it took them to recover from the study? Oh hey, let's study that!
     
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  6. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    * I've given each sentence it's own paragraph.
     
  7. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    A couple of extracts
    (next, but thought I'd separate - lots of fatigue measures only use a single assessment)

    Just looking at it. It's hard to try to post other points unless people have the paper. Probably far to say that nothing earth-shattering anyway.
     
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    I had always assumed a pattern of mornings being the worst and things gradually getting better through the day. Seems that this is just one class.
     
  9. Ember

    Ember Senior Member

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    There was also a brief discussion of this article earlier here.
     
  10. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    This paper was based on the baseline data from a non-pharmacological trial. Lots of papers (20? 30?) have been published on the data. The main purpose was to try out the effects of the four treatments and that's what they got the money for. So no major costs from doing this paper.
     

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