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Discussion in 'Alternative Therapies' started by Misfit Toy, May 14, 2012.

  1. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    I started going to a spiritual healer in March. I didn't really realize what exactly it meant. I had no idea that she or "they" believe that all illness comes from an underlying emotional factor. Right from the get go I was told through muscle testing that I was a man in my previous life, my brother had been my son and my mother was my brother/son's grandmother. In my previous life I was from South America.

    I went along with this up until recently when I was told that almost everything that was going on in my life that was negative; for example, I worked so much and now I am burned out....in the spiritual healer's mind, I have purposely burned myself out because I don't want to be successful due to someone in my family being successful and a jerk.

    Every illness is explained through me causing it because subconsciously, I don't want to deal with something. I have interstitial cystitis because I don't want to have sex and I want to keep men at a distance. Or, I possibly have been raped and didn't know it.

    A cigar is never just a cigar.

    You get the picture. I wanted this to work. I liked the mantras and the positive affirmations. I am sad that I feel like everything I try is a road to nowhere. My CFS doctor stinks. My acupuncturist wants to see me twice a week even though I am on Medicare and can't afford it....and she never hears me when I say this.

    Last week I had a scare that I might have breast cancer. I had a mammogram and it came back that I have calcifications and they wanted me to come back in pronto for another test. They needed to see me now, "right now." Then, I had somewhere to be; I opened my mailbox and received a letter from my GYN saying I have a fibroid tumor and a cyst on my one ovary. Last week, I was being hit over the head with bad news every day from the medical profession and a letter? That's how you let me know what you found in an ultrasound? Plus, my therapist, who I had really grown to like decided to retire. I came in and she told me "today is my last day." WHAT??? I never like therapists, I finally like someone and she retires? I sat there in shock and cried during my whole last session, like now what?? I feel completely betrayed by the medical profession. It's all some sick joke.

    I am unraveling. Some people think I am not proactive in looking for answers, but for all of the reasons above, this is why I just cave in and decide to do nothing. I just want to do nothing and lay in bed due to lack of sleep, but according to the spiritual healer, it's my way of not wanting to deal with life and to not be successful with my job. I quit with her. Done. I want to do that with all of my doctor's.
     
  2. gu3vara

    gu3vara Senior Member

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    I tried the spiritual healing way, at first I was convinced he could cure me because he truly gave me more energy after a couple of treatments. However, it was short-lived, like I couldn't sustain the energy he gave me and I crashed BADLY. He also told me that because of major sins in my previous lives I was determined to fucked up my current incarnation.
     
  3. xchocoholic

    xchocoholic Senior Member

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    (((HUGS))) .. Sorry to hear that you're struggling. On the upside, you can scratch spiritual healing
    off your list of possible cures. Finding someone who isn't just trying to separate us from our money is almost
    impossible these days. Sadly, preying on sick people is just too irresistable for some people.

    I hope I don't sound like I'm bragging or like a broken record, but I've had good luck with my current integrative doctor. They look for and treat root causes of illnesses so
    they don't need to keep their patients coming back. Have you tried that yet ? I'm a work-in-progress
    kinda patient myself since I seem to have a long list of root causes for my ME / POTS.

    Hang in there whatever you decide to do. X
     
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  4. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    First of all, some humor! I have been awarded a trophy on the new PR and somebody likes me!! YAY!! HA HA.

    It's crazy and people buy into this. I was told that my brother doesn't like me because when I was his father in his previous life, I abandoned him because my wife died and I was broken hearted. So, that's why there is all of this turmoil in my life now.

    I felt great or better for a few weeks and then I crashed. I think I was on some sort of buzz with all of the positive affirmations and wanted to be this different person, but the reality is, I have CFIDS and she doesn't really believe in illness, it's all a manifestation that I have created.

    XChocoholic...my doctor is an integrative doc. I have been seeing him for 12 years. He has done all of that and still hasn't really been able to get me better. The supplements either make me sicker or I have no positive reaction.
     
  5. Calathea

    Calathea Darkness therapy

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    That so-called healer sounds absolutely delusional, deliberately ill-informed, and unethical in the highest degree. Quite frankly, behaviour like that is abuse. Well done you for getting away from it.

    Best of luck with all the medical stuff, it sounds incredibly stressful. I know what you mean about feeling betrayed when you finally find someone useful in the medical profession, and then they leave - I am still sulking slightly about my marvellous eye specialist, who has researched ME eye problems, vanishing from sight, even though she had the perfectly valid reason of medical leave.

    I sent you a private message (now called a Conversation) about group thingies, did you get it?
     
  6. xchocoholic

    xchocoholic Senior Member

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    12 years .. Bummer .. What kind of diet does he have you on ? I don't do well with certain supplements
    either and just started juicing. Even juicing affects my sleep if I have too much tho.

    I try to look at what I'm doing for my health as an experiment that can't kill me and MIGHT cure me. I'm too big of a chicken to try
    some of the stuff I read about on the web. Luckily my doctor respects my gutless side .. lol ..

    If you haven't seen dr terry wahls videos, those might help too. Tc .. X


    Ps. If I'm ever up to it, I'd love to compare integrative tests and treatments here on pwcs. I "think"
    I shocked my doctor when my labs started looking good and yet I'm still sick.
     
  7. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    He really doesn't have me on a diet. I am gluten free. He has 20 minutes to 30 to go over with you all that needs to be said. Because I have so many allergies to foods, I have really not listened as much as I used to because no matter what I eat, I have a reaction to it. I have done all of the protocols, lived in different states and my mom has spent a boat load of money on supplements, treatments, saunas for the home and I have not gotten better.

    Having said that, I am not at home sick in bed everyday so life can be bearable. One of the biggest problems for me has been my gut, but I have tried so much with no avail. I refuse to live a life where I don't eat some things I want to. For 13 years, my diet was so strict and crazy and I became even more allergic to foods because I gave up so many things and then reintroduced them and was even more allergic to them. I have done homemade kefir, sauerkraut that is homemade, probiotics, you name it.

    Anyway, I sort of tune protocols out anymore and even supplements. The only supplements that ever worked for me were herbs for when I had endometriosis. I believe in Chinese medicine because it is the only thing that ever helped when I was in awful pain. Having said that, acupuncture does nothing for me.
     
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  8. xchocoholic

    xchocoholic Senior Member

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    That's interesting. I had no idea that all integrative doctors didn't stress the importance of a healthy
    nutritious diet above all else. I guess integrative and functional doctors aren't the same. Imho, dr terry wahls explains how this works really well.

    I understand your frustration and feel that way too sometimes. I hope you find success in whatever you decide
    to do. Tc .. X
     
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    I totally understand your frustration and discouragement. It seems like any treatment options we have are just beating around the bush, because nobody knows why we are sick. If we could just figure that out....

    But seriously, sometimes when it rains, it pours, and one wonders if there is a God and if she/he is picking on us. Otherwise, having all this stuff happen makes no sense whatsoever. I wonder if giving up and going home and just resting and doing things that make us happy might be just as good as the constant search, which can be so exhausting.
     
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  10. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    Yes, when the spiritual healer told me that she has a cold and that she is trying to figure it out, why on an emotional level she is bringing on a cold....I thought to myself; really? Just have some tea, lay on the couch and stop analyzing it. It is what it is, a cold. It's not a big deal and sometimes a germ is just a germ. I just need to do what seems to work for me even though I don't get well from it; rest. Listen to my body and try the best I can to take care of myself. The two things that help me are friends and making jewelry. That makes me feel better.
     
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  11. illsince1977

    illsince1977 A shadow of my former self

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    Hi Spitfire,

    I like you! And I am like you too. I've been seen in an integrative practice for 11 years and nothing has helped. I too react badly to supplements.

    32 years ago after I was told by my OB/GYN, "I don't think there is anything Western medicine can do for you" (unfortunately truer words were never spoken), which meant effectively I was being abandoned by the medical profession, I consulted a psychic who was sure my illness was due to a spiritual deficiency. This person never did a thing for me other than deplete an already almost non-existent bank account.

    Psychics are not exempted from the same foibles as scientists, the medical profession and people in general, which I call a lack of imagination if I'm feeling generous or being a jerk (substitute your favorite derogatory attribution) when I'm feeling under attack!
     
  12. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    There could be energy healers who aren't saying strange past life things. Or meditation teachers or coaches to provide the mantras and affirmations without anything bad. They would have to believe you are ill.

    I am not surprised they would try and ignore the money and push you to come in more. A lot of them need money themselves so it really helps them if they push their clients :(

    So sorry that therapist is retiring on you and about your fibroid :( I hope the fibroid turns out ok and doesn't need anything. Did the therapist suggest a new therapist?

    Yes it takes energy and sometimes makes us feel terrible :( I have quit going to docs and others, except for one therapist I like. I will do some things like cancer screenings.
     
  13. illsince1977

    illsince1977 A shadow of my former self

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    I've been wondering this myself lately. Of course for many of us pain, severe MCS, digestive ailments or any number of things compel us to seek treatment as the symptoms are unsustainable, but I have lost my eagerness to try most treatments as I feel like my chances of success are dwindlingly small at this point.
     
  14. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    The one thing that still helps me, which I don't talk about anymore, is the shot for food allergies that is an amino acid shot. Have you heard of this? It's spreading throughout the country and comes from Germany. I think they are in Spain now. It makes my food allergies dissipate. I can eat more and get away with it. It's VERY expensive. $280 a month expensive. Now, I do it every other month or I skip 2 months. For those that have serious food allergies like me, this may be an option. Only certain docs do it.

    It's made my life more tolerable. Everyone, thank you for your support. Another thing that irritates me is that people who send me to these crocks, become irritated that I give up on these crazy treatments. My friend sent me to this healer. I love my friend, but she has sent me to some crazy people. One guy who was a healer would tell me the price of the appointment, after he muscle tested me at the end of a session. In otherwords, I had no idea how much an appointment was until after the appointment. One time is was $89.21. Eight nine dollars and 21 cents?? Is that not nuts. There were no supplements and there was no tax involved. SHAM.

    I really want to continue doing those positive mantras. You say, "I sleep well every night. I am pain free. I am a fun person." I love those!! I think positive thinking is a good thing. You throw it out there to the universe what you want, and it might happen. It can't hurt! I want to find someone who can teach me about this. I loved it.
     
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  15. ggingues

    ggingues $10 gift code at iHerb GAS343 of $40

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    Hello Spitfire,

    did you ever try Low Dose Naltrexone? I have been on it for 2.5 years now, and I think it helped my digestion. How is your Vitamin D, that's an immune modulator also.

    GG
     
  16. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    I could not sleep on naltrexone at all. AT ALL. So, I quit it. My vitamin D is low and I forget to take it. Ugh.
     
  17. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Well though I feel bad for your wasted time, the stories of the crazy healers is entertaining to me, I didn't know they existed. I don't get out much. I think those you described must have a mental illness.

    For manifesting good things in your life, there is a video called The Secret, and many books about it.
     
  18. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    I forget to take my Vit D too, and it is so important.
     
  19. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    I have that book! "The Secret." I will read it. Yes, these stories are funny. They really are. But you know, some people swear by these people. That lets you know that for some, mind really is over...matter.
     
  20. ggingues

    ggingues $10 gift code at iHerb GAS343 of $40

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    I started LDN during a major flare, so I was having sleep issues big time. I had sleep issues before. Saw a doc and found the right anti-depressant, and I have been sleeping well for over 2 years now. Are you sensitive to meds? Can you take an anti-depressant for sleep?

    GG
     

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