Here's a point: on Sophia Mirza's death certificate, M.E. was listed as a primary cause of death, now although the thing which finally killed her was renal failure iirc, ME is listed there, in black and white on a UK death certificate note that, it's not a PHYSICAL cause of death, it's not death due to say "suicide under the effects of depression" or such The extensive post mortem on her spinal cord etc, showed peculiar inflammation and damage which has been seen before in M.E. victim's autopsies, back to the 1950s and the London outbreak and how it got it's name, iirc. Therefor, M.E. is surely a LEGALLY RECOGNIZED, LETHAL DISEASE BY RECOGNITION OF UK LAW? Hm, legal experts? So take that and shove it up yer pipe, Weasels! :victory: This issue should be hammered, as it's hard for the bastards to wriggle out from under a coroner's verdict. Since M.E. is a lethal disease (at least in the most severe cases), deliberate, willful failure to treat such with all due care for the patient's well being is therefor MANSLAUGHTER if a death results there after and possibly even murder considering the utter bigotry and abuse we often suffer, which is the same as refusing to treat a person's illness because of race creed or colour, and therefor, moves it into a very different category from "Negligent homicide".