The 12th Invest in ME Conference, Part 1
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Sleeping Pill users likely to die early

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by taniaaust1, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. taniaaust1

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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-likely-to-die-early/articleshow/6531083.cms

     
  2. Min

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    The study has forgotten to take into account the fact that sleeping pill users are likely to already be suffering from some neurological or other illness that is causing the sleeplessness, and that this may lead to earlier death.

    I'm sure that researchers could prove the moon really is made of cheese if they wanted to just by the way the research was slanted.
     
  3. SOC

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    This is one of those "studies" that confuses correlation with causation. They always seems to get into the media. :rolleyes:

    As Min said, there could be many other correlations between taking sleeping pills and dying sooner including ill health, poor sleep, psychological issues and no doubt many others.
     
  4. Christopher

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    Hear, hear. Stupid media.
     
  5. Dolphin

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    This is the study:
    I'm guessing from the title it didn't include low dose tricyclics which I and I know some other people with ME/CFS use. Can't see an abstract etc on site at moment: http://publications.cpa-apc.org/browse/documents/1
     
  6. Otis

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    I'm a minority case as I get zero deep sleep (not considered a sleep disorder!!) and will probably die quite early between that issue and the toll CFS takes on me. But without sleep meds I would barely sleep at all and would absolutly due even sooner.

    Oh the games people play with data.
     
  7. heapsreal

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    im same as u otis, almost nil sleep if i go drug free, i think i would die earlier without drugged sleep.
     
  8. ixchelkali

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    BBC News: "Lack of sleep linked to early death'

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8660373.stm
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20469800

    BTW, this same study found that too much sleep was also linked with early death, but they thought that was probably because people who are sick tend to sleep more. (!!!)

    So it looks like you're pretty much damned if you, damned if you don't. :cool:

    Say it with me now, "Correlation is not causation." :sofa:
     
  9. Dolphin

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    I don't know why this is a virtue of the study.

    To me, it seems:
    If there was a dose-dependent response, it might increase the chances it was the drugs (although could still be due to other factors).
    If there is no dose-dependent response, it's likely to be the sort of people who take pills.
    We don't find out which it is (from looking at piece above)
     

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