Hi everyone, I'm having an awful time getting sleep. Takes hours to fall asleep and then usually I wake up at least once and take an hour or hours to fall back asleep. I keep hearing from those who've improved how much getting good sleep played a role and I can see it in myself too how much it affects how I'm feeling. My sleep has been better before so I have some hope that I can at least get back to that. The sicker I am the worse my sleep is but to get better I need better sleep, a vicious cycle! I've tried plenty of meds and for now I want to just see if people have any non-medication tips for getting okay sleep. Is it even possible for those who have severe sleep disturbance with CFS/ME to improve their sleep without meds? If you've had a luck please share. I know many have had luck with meds but in this thread I'm hoping for non-medication tips please. Thank you! And good sleep to all ETA: Even when I'm asleep my sleep quality is poor. I am having very vivid dreams and nightmares and feel like I'm half awake much of the time I'm sleeping. But I'll take the poor quality sleep over no sleep. I want to be able to fall asleep quicker. Three hours or more after getting in bed is just ridiculous. And I want to be able to sleep longer. Better would be nice too but for now I just need more sleep and not to be laying in bed for so long miserably not falling asleep! EYATO (Edited yet again to add): I may try some of these tips. http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Sleep_is_vital_for_good_health_-_especially_in_CFS I still need to read through it all but some good ideas in there. But does any of this stuff work for anyone? I hate to find that the only thing that's helped people is meds, because that has just not been right for me.