Thanks, Bob, for the explanation. Yeah, going that FOI route would be hard work. On reflection, I emailed Ellen Goudsmit not because I need evidence but because I bristled at her letter that to me seemed to be trying to shut down noisy activism. She posted this letter in the quasi-public space of co-cure (anyone can subscribe) but warned that what she wrote wasn't to be reposted. I believe her letter was a warning to the leadership of whatever ME charity (can't remember which) had called for evidence of abuse that Simon Wessely claims he has suffered in the pursuit of scientific truth.