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Simon Wessely Quotes

Discussion in 'Information and Resources' started by Valentijn, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. Valentijn

    Valentijn Activity Level: 3

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    Updated through 2007. He's definitely slowing down a bit, though some papers aren't accessible without paying. I'll try to get a look at them after I finish up with the easy stuff.
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    Updated through 2012 :cool:
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    Currently digging up the harder-to-find articles and chapters. I just hit one that mentions (and dismisses) PEM:
    I'd seen this elsewhere, so decided to see what the hell he's talking about. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_contraction#Eccentric_contraction it's called delayed onset muscle soreness. While the time frame is about right, wikipedia has this to say: "The pain is felt only when the muscle is stretched, contracted or put under pressure, not when it is at rest."

    Whereas in PEM/PENE, the pain is constant and symptoms are more widespread than just muscles that were used.

    There might indeed be a problem with eccentric muscle contractions, but if so it's a pathological version of it - not standard deconditioning.
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    Valentijn, this is great!

    Thanks for all the hard work.

    Here's a Wessely" quote that acknowledges the severity of our disease: it's good to be able to point to our biggest critics admitting this much:

    "... far from merely representing the “worried well”, many such patients are severely disabled. For example, chronic fatigue syndrome is associated with worse disability than conditions such as heart failure."

    The quote is from page 396 of 'Functional somatic syndromes: one or many?'
    S Wessely, C Nimnuan, M Sharpe
    Lancet 1999; 354: 936–39
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  5. Valentijn

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    These sorts of quotes are difficult ... I try to choose the ones where he's stating things very plainly, but in one like this I think his meaning is different than what would usually be inferred by someone reading it. That is, there's a suggestion in this quote that CFS is a serious physiological disease by comparing it to heart failure, but what he really seems to mean in the greater context of his other work is that mental illnesses like his version of CFS can be just as disabling as physiological illness.
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    "Finally, it should be noted that our conclusions are primarily based on common sense, in the absence of a sound evidence base."
    Huibers M, Wessely S. The act of diagnosis: pros and cons of labelling chronic fatigue syndrome. Psychological Medicine 2006: 36

    This one pissed me off the most. How can he claim that his research is based in science and then conclude it is primarily based on common sense. After admitting this, why is it that people still listen to this man? I don't get it.

    I think this is a good idea (keeping his quotes in one area). When he contradicts himself, we will know; and, hopefully, can get others to see it to.
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