I thought I'd pull out a few recent quotes from Wessely about the absurdity of believing anyone would promote the view that CFS was 'all in the mind' - (what a straw-man!), and place the quotes from his 1997 discussion with Shorter afterwards, in which they themselves use the term unironically. Strangely, Wessely doesn't condemn Shorter's absurd quackery, but instead, seems more concerned of the dangers of speaking openly about accepting it. Shorter is a historian, but is heavily involved in the CFS quackfest. He wrote the opening chapter for Peter White's book on biopsychosocial medicine, which included another discussion with Wessely and others. When you read Wessely's earlier stuff on the danger of ME support groups etc, it clearly fits very well with Shorter's view of CFS as a manifestation of social hysteria, even if Wessely doesn't use the H word. http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/7190703/mind-the-gap.thtml http://jnnp.bmj.com/content/83/1/4.full 1997: http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...-more-morality-and-philosophy-than-cfs.13045/ Anyway... there are so many better reasons for criticising Wessely than that. It's pretty irritating that so much of the coverage around the anger patients feel towards Wessely simply parrots his own misleading claims on these matters though. It is possible to think that patients diagnosed with CFS have been poorly treated as a result of the work of Wessely and his colleagues, even if one does not despise all psychiatrists, think that mental health problems are not 'real' or fails to understand how mind and body can interact. If patients were all being lumped together and treated as if they were suffering from a retrovirus despite a lack of positive evidence that this is the case, that would be immoral quackery too.