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I imagine the suffix "gate" is equally irritatingMind you having the prefix "controversial" automatically added to "PACE Trial" everywhere it appears nowadays must irritate the hell out of them
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I imagine the suffix "gate" is equally irritatingMind you having the prefix "controversial" automatically added to "PACE Trial" everywhere it appears nowadays must irritate the hell out of them
George Davey Smith, for example, is an epidemiologist, and lots of the others are psychologists. Maybe he has never understood the implications of placebo effect and therapist effect because it's not part of his experience, so he leaves it to the 'experts' in clinical research.
Not to mention the prefix "fart". "PACE trial" has morphed into "Fart-Gate"I imagine the suffix "gate" is equally irritating
MEGA money?It seems he has been "turned" over to their side. How they managed to turn him is simply a topic of speculation.
MEGA money?
One sad casualty in this affair has been overlooked. Dr Jonathan Kerr worked at St Georges Hospital in London, the hotbed of the PACE study. He worked however on possible physiological problems in ME CFS. This was counter to the PACE ideal. His tenure in the hospital was not renewed and he was forced to leave, in fact he had to leave England to obtain his present position in South America.Scientists trade insults over myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME) study
Even if you take the PACE research as a proper scientific study, which i question, the results published by the authors do NOT show impressive positive results. The results are marginal at best. This should suggest major questions about the trial and the imposed treatment.In the original article it's good to see that even the Times isn't letting the psychosocial brigade have it all their own way, portraying it as six of one and half a dozen of the other is a significant move in the right direction, although nowhere near far enough of course. When I read the headline I did wonder who had been doing the insulting on our behalf, and of course it would be that liability Coyne. We have now been promoted from "borderline sociopaths" to "Professor Coyne and his allies".
Anyway, Coyne has got his wish of getting "all this backchannel bullshit into the open", and allowed the Times to portray the JHP's special edition as part of a childish academic spat. On the other hand "disgusting old fart neoliberal hypocrite" is a wonderfully attention-grabbing piece of publicity that will appeal to the British public, and if it's true that there's no such thing as bad publicity then his petulant rantings may have inadvertently done us a favour after all - we were never going to get higher level coverage from the Times anyway, what with their place on the board of the SMC and the lazy, spineless journalism we've had from them in the past.
Can't help noticing that 3 JHP board members stropping off in a huff is a newsworthy "mass resignation" whilst the fate of 250,000 UK citizens suffering from ME for decades seems totally unworthy of serious investigation.
Even if you take the PACE research as a proper scientific study, which i question, the results published by the authors do NOT show impressive positive results. The results are marginal at best. This should suggest major questions about the trial and the imposed treatment.
James Coyne, a co-editor on the journal and emeritus professor at the University of Pennsylvania, said he was glad to see Professor Davey Smith go, replying: “I have become sick and tired of you badgering me backchannel.” He added: “You had long been one of my intellectual heroes but in your attempt to bully me you moved from a Trotskyite in your younger days to a disgusting old fart neoliberal hypocrite.”
I don't really believe in horseshoe theory, centrist/liberal governance has been a failure imoDebored13
extremists are pretty much the same...hence classic political image showing the political dispositions in a horse shoe shape
not much difference in the end between communism and fascism because folk drag them all to hell (and any other system)
Even if you take the PACE research as a proper scientific study, which i question, the results published by the authors do NOT show impressive positive results. The results are marginal at best. This should suggest major questions about the trial and the imposed treatment.