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Scientists fear MMR link to autism

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by JPV, Feb 4, 2011.

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    Great news to hear research is vindicating Dr Wakefield - thanks for posting.
     
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    Alas, that's an old article and w'eve heard nothing more recent and concrete :/
    I believe Wakefield's just been "wiped out" to scare anyone in the field to shut up, or else.
    Big Money owns all, who cares about human lives?
    Meh! :(
     
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    The comments and interview from Mercola were recent.
     
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    [video=youtube;OsnL9yHApIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsnL9yHApIA[/video]
     
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    ke Forest Researcher Warns Against Making Connection Between Presence of Measles Virus and Autism
    6/1/2006
    WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. – An American scientist whose research replicates a connection published in England in 2002 between the measles virus and bowel disease in autistic children strongly warns against making the “leap” to suggesting that the measles vaccine might actually cause autism.

    “That is not what our research is showing,” said Stephen J. Walker, Ph.D., an assistant professor of physiology and pharmacology at Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center. Walker and colleagues have issued an abstract to be presented at this week’s International Meeting for Autism Research, indicating that a high percentage of autistic children that they have tested with chronic bowel disease show evidence of measles virus in their intestines.

    Some observers have said that the presence of the measles virus indicates a strong possibility that the measles vaccine, a possible source of the virus, could have caused the children’s autism. That possible connection has caused a major controversy in the United Kingdom, where the connection was first made in 2002. The vaccine is first given as part of a triple vaccine called MMR – for measles, mumps and rubella – at ages 12-18 months. That is shortly before a particular type of autism (regressive) begins to appear in children afflicted with the condition, which has fueled the speculation about a connection.

    Walker says the new research does not support the connection, and he notes that the results have not even been published in a peer-reviewed journal. “Even if we showed association (between measles virus and bowel disease) and we published it in a peer-reviewed journal, the conclusion will be simply that there is measles virus in the gut of a large number of children who have regressive autism and bowel disease. End of story.

    “We haven’t done anything to demonstrate that the measles virus is causing autism or even causing bowel disease.”

    Walker explains that exploring the causes of chronic bowel disease in autistic children is the major impetus for his research. “There are lots of viruses in the gut, and any one of them could be causing inflammation. If it truly is from a vaccine and this virus causes inflammation and a chronic bowel condition in some susceptible children, then that’s something that needs to be known.”

    The main task at hand, Walker said, is to determine what is causing the bowel condition in the autistic children, a condition that has a direct influence on cognitive and behavioral issues associated with autism.

    A high percentage of autistic children have chronic bowel disease, a discovery in the late 1990s that eventually led to the measles virus connection.

    “If anybody has severe GI problems, it causes problems with focus, it causes problems with everything. You can’t do anything until you get that resolved. We’ve all experienced that.

    “These kids experience it hour after hour every single day of their lives. Many of them are non-verbal so they can’t tell anybody what the problem is, and the behavior that they exhibit as a result of a severe stomach ache was once attributed to just being autistic and having weird behaviors – for example, leaning over the sharp edge of a coffee table for hours at a time. That seems weird, but what they’re doing is relieving pressure on their lower abdomen.”

    Walker said that relieving the bowel discomfort has been shown to improve other conditions associated with autism, such as cognition and the ability to learn. “There’s case after case where kids improved cognitively, behaviorally and biomedically when you treat the bowel disease. There is a great improvement from better nutrition alone. You see improvements in their overall condition.”

    Walker said he will continue to look for possible causes, the biological mechanism, and new treatments of the bowel condition. “That’s the goal for me: understanding the biology of what’s causing the disease and then gaining insight into the most effective way to treat it, so that clinicians will not have to go through a trial and error approach.”
     
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    Booyah!

    Glad to hear the news about Wakefield. I saw him interviewed, and he seems extremely credible.

    Now if they would just test the MMR vaccine kids for XMRV, maybe we would be getting somewhere.
     
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    I agree Mark, on both points! :)
     
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    Very interesting. Following his MMR vaccine as a toddler, my son became very ill with what looked like measles. He had a red rash, red eyes, fever, was very irritable, had severe photophobia & GI distress. His symptoms waxed and waned for years. At age 12, after an enormous weight loss, inability to eat w/o vomiting, and lying in bed for months he was finally Dxed at Hopkins as having a small bowel dysmotility secondary to NMH. He began seeing Dr. Peter Rowe, their pediatric chronic fatigue specialist. He is not DXed with autism, but has several LD's- auditory processing disorder among them- which is on the autism spectrum.

    I have since met other parents of children with dysautonomia/CFS whose children also became ill (with what looked like measles) following the MMR vaccine. From my experience- there's something here...
     
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    Just saw Bill Gates interviewed with Charlie Rose. Same thing going on there. He totally dismisses Dr Wakefield as doing "some study" long ago, and that Wakefield had been proven a fraud and having ties to attorneys.

    Bill Gates also mentions that the FDA was very responsive to developing AIDS drugs. However, I have seen commentary on the forums that suggested the ADIS groups had to sue the FDA to finally do any research on Aids drugs.

    Bill Gates is supporting the vaccines saying that child birth is actually reduced with vaccination. Didn't quite get the WHY child birth is reduced in that comment. He also advocates reduced birth and population as being a good thing because they don't have the food and resources and such to support the populations. He mentions birth control and other stuff that have helped control the population.

    Not sure what to make out of Bill Gates commentary. Lets just say I'm watching closely.

    Bill Gates also mentioned something about how an ongoing effort since 1985 had been going on for something.. Didn't catch that completely, but the 1985 hit a nerve.
     
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    The guy can't even get his company to produce a decent software product that works properly... and now he's a health expert?

    Puhleeez. Gates is clearly a part of the PROBLEM...

     

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