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Science asks authors to retract XMRV/CFS paper

Discussion in 'Media, Interviews, Blogs, Talks, Events about XMRV' started by Nielk, May 30, 2011.

  1. Jemal

    Jemal Senior Member

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    I can only echo Eric: I have seen several patients of KDM report on Dutch forums that they had stomach biopsies that were found positive for XMRV.
     
  2. Bob

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    OK, thanks eric and Jemal.

    That sounds very interesting.

    Do you know if there any preliminary results at all?
     
  3. Jemal

    Jemal Senior Member

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    Not published, that I know of.
     
  4. Daffodil

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    i couldnt read all the above posts..but since more than 1 lab has now found MLV-related viruses instead of XMRV in particular, doesn't it seem more likely that these are the cause of CFS?

    KDM has found XMRV in tissue but does that mean anything? if he is using the materials or methods (or whatever) from VIP/Redlab, won't they make the same contamination arguments for his results too?
     
  5. Bob

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    Yes, that's how it seems to me Daffodil. The research should be investigating XMRV and PMRV, or as Judy calls them, HGRV's. Judy has now detected PMRVs in her patients.

    If KDM has sent his samples to VipDX 'blinded', and has got back convincing results with a significant difference between patients and controls, then that does help move the research forwards, but it won't convince everyone.
     
  6. justinreilly

    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    I'd like to get saved from the ME plague whatever it is caused by. and it is a plague. saying 'plain old boring ME that's been around forever' is like saying we have 'plain old boring AIDS or Autism that's been around forever.'
     
  7. justinreilly

    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    I agree totally.
     

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