I think we have to realise for most there is no cure. There are treatments to help manage this illness and also improve peoples function. There is also those in the less than 3 year category who seem to have higher odds of recovery.Even a few experimental treatments that are promising, seem to require ongoing treatments. I didn't start this thread to be negative but to be realistic. I think some people who come here initially, think that taking certain vitamins etc can cure them after reading certain threads etc. maybe they have high expectations and maybe over look what's really being posted or they are new here and don't really know the person making the claims of certain treatments. I think people can read a thread where someone has said, wow! I feel amazing after that b12 injection and the wow for the actual person is that they maybe able to walk without the constant nerve pain in their feet for example, but others reading it may think the wow is that this person is now hitting the gym up five times a week. When someone says a treatment works or helps, it's hard to quantify as well as knowing from where one has come from and where a certain treatment has taken them to??? I think currently we need to realise that there isn't any treatments that are going to bring us back to pre cfs/me state and we need to adjust our expectations. But there is more hope then there ever has been with some very bright minds working on trying to solve this mess. We are always going to be under funded but it is amazing how much researchers have been able to find out about cfsme. We don't know how long it's going to take to find all the answers but it only take one ah ha moment or a fluke discovery just like many other illnesses and it will all be solved. There are also many things that are Under rated such as rest and pacing. For many it seems to be a lesson learnt through personal experience to know where their boundaries are, which can also change regularly. Managing this illness is an ongoing experiment of trial and error, ups and downs, crashes and crashes. Cheers.