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raw cannibis as anti-oxidant, anti-inflamatory, anti-cancer

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Jarod, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. Jarod

    Jarod Senior Member

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    Wow. I can't smoke this stuff, but sure would like to try juicing it after watching this video.

    Impressive interview of young girl diagnosed with lupus @4:00 minutes. She claims cannibis raw juiced relieves all of her infections!

    also includes an interview with a UCSF researcher on cannibis.

    [video=youtube;qgEP9FdIzT8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qgEP9FdIzT8#![/video]


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    Wow, this seems like something that could be tried without much difficulty.

    More great links!

    http://www.cannabisinternational.org/articles.php
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    Jarod, if one is fairly tolerable to cannabinoids, they are likely the most effective, natural painkiller with the least side effects on this planet. Why do you think it's still mostly illegal? Here in CA it is legal and the best 3 pain-free days since onset of my FM/CFS were when I accidentally overdosed a bit the night before. I had absolutely zero pain and no side effects whatsoever (after the night was over) for the next 3 days and thought for a moment I had gotten rid of "it".
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  5. Jarod

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    Hey Mellster,

    That's interesting, but be difficult taking that much on a regular basis you think? Have you tried that again to see if you can repeat it?

    I used to smoke cannibis. Looking back, I had some benefit from it and some harm. It might have calmed down the excitoxcity a bit, but also some things about it that made me worse.

    What do you think of this juicing idea? Seems like it would take too much plant to me.....

    The Dr mentioned people grow the plants and juice one each day. That seems ok once one is set up for it. I would need a garage I think. Don't think a grow room would work to well in the spare bedroom of an apartment. Might smell too much.

    Can you think of any way to get just the CBD in the dispensaries? I think everything in the store has been heated for the psychoactive affects?

    I've kind of run out of other options at this point. Seems like it would be worth a shot.

    Moving up to the golden triangle might be in my future. :Green hat:
  6. Mark

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    One of my personal favourite presentations from the NIH State of the Knowledge Workshop on ME/CFS Research (because it described neuropathic pain in a way that I found really moving) - Dr James Baraniuk on Neuroimmunology of CFS - starts at 411m here:

    http://videocast.nih.gov/summary.asp?live=10098

    Note the mention of Endocannabinoids at 442m.
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  7. SickOfSickness

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    I would love to try the juice, but no way I'm going to grow a bunch of plants. I think you would not get enough juice from each plant, would you? I want to know more too. Any other way to get the benefits?

    How long do the benefits last? If one could just have a 1 week or 1 month supply of juice and see real gains, that don't go away, that would be amazing!

    I use organic hemp protein which the company claims has all the nutrients the seeds have. I think it helps a little. It is gross tasting unless mixed with juice (acidic) and until you get used to it. I'm sure it's not nearly as good as fresh juice.
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  8. Jarod

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    All things I would like to know also! Be good to see more videos of people in remission. I did find one other youtube video where a guy talks about being healthier after doing it. You can also see the gal when she was sick also. Big change for sure.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa0nLdVJiIg

    As far as benefits go, the girl mentioned she was in "remission" after 6 weeks from lupus, Internal Cystitis, and a whole mess of things. Sounds to to good to be true, but got to have hope.

    Somebody posted this audio on "adaptive stress response". I wonder if that is how juicing may work?

    http://forums.phoenixrising.me/showthread.php?16804-Antioxidants-lecture

    I want to find out more. Need to find out how much space and effort it takes.

    In those links in the first couple posts of this thread, there is a list of places training how to grow cannibis.

    There is also a bunch of youtube videos showing how to make an indoor grow room. They mostly use basements and garages with concrete floors. I think one could grow one plant in a bedroom, but to grow 30 plants for juicing, one needs space.

    I'm thinking if one had a one car garage, basement, or shed they could set this up without too much money. However, the beauty of it is being self sufficient.

    I know the area where they are living. The whole economy runs on pot up there mendicino, and lake county. I think marijuana is California's number one or number two cash crop and most of it is grown up in those counties.

    From Willits California up north is all pot country. Wild west.
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    Still trying to figure this out. I have no idea what it all means, but sounds positive to me.





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    I believe in this. We (or I am) need to think out of the box in order to feel better. THis is the time. I tried cannabis oil for 3 weeks but in California they seem to have more sorts and different advanced methodes.

    Thanks for the post.
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    I just posted this in an other thread but thought this is worth bumping here as well and pointing out,



    People need to be aware that this oil is the way to go over all else and you do not need anywhere near the kind of amount you would for regular juicing; is basically a similar principle but drawing much more of the active compounds out into a condensed easily usable form.
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    I wonder if a liquid extract would be as effective. If so, sure would be more convenient than having to juice a bunch of the raw plant. Google....."Sativex"
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    Here's a link to the site from the video Ghoastgum posted in post #11. It gives instruction for making oil along with a 2 hr movie

    http://phoenixtears.ca/
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    About time.... Anybody know when it is going to be available for prescription or purchase?

    New Medical Marijuana Won’t Get Users Stoned

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    The only issue with these pharma formulas is apparently they can be quite inferior, so I have read anyway. Really the Israeli's developing the no THC stuff is to appease politics to some extent as well, but it does give great legitimacy to the science and tells the naysayers to go stick it; but yes some people also have low tolerance to THC. Of course if a prescription is your only option there would be harm in trying it. Jarod you could always go to Israel, but who knows when it could be on prescription/available in other countries. If you have medical MJ available, if you did a lot of digging and asking dispensaries its likely you could eventually come across very low THC and high cannabinoid products; even though so much of the industry is still focused on recreational types of cannabis, they are slowly introducing more cannabinoid products, which is what they should be doing.

    If you look at the Rick Simpson stuff as well and some research you likely want some THC in an extract because of its medical benefits, as stated in the clip as well an oil will likely not get you stoned or high anyway, unless it has excessive THC amounts probably. One of the great ironies of cannabis is that cannabinoids are anti-psychotic/anti-psychoactive so even if you have some moderate amount of THC in an extract it will be countered by cannabinoids, as goes for smoking or using many types of cannabis which have balanced profiles, over those selected for high THC content that can blow your head off. Making an oil, having some knowledge of the genetics/THC/cannabinoid content before hand is very helpful.
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    Heya.

    I'm in California and we are lucky to have legalized Marijuana for medical purposes. I have some other treatment options left at the moment through hearbs and supplements. However, I wouldn't hesitate trying hemp oil with the right rype of location for growing. One has to worry about getting burgularized if they don't have a safe place to grow that.

    I like this becuase it doesn't cost too much.

    That first video mentioned one can grow 30 plants for personal use legally. The so the idea is to juice one and plant one daily.

    Or the other option like you posted suggests, grow a pound, then make oil.

    Wonder how long the oil keeps? What about growing a few huge plants in a closet/garage/bedroom with "grow lights" then making oil? Then one can get a pound to make oil and grow a few more plants. Those lights grow pot fast, so maybe that would take less space then having 30 plants at once for juicing?

    We actually have a place called "Oaksterdam" in Oakland California if anybody is serious enough about trying it. Probably enough information on the web though if one is healthy enough to study.
    "Quality Training for the Cannabis Industry"

    "America's first cannibis college"
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    I've wanted to try some form of hemp for sleep issues forever. But it's not legal here in Maryland, and I'd rather not smoke it anyway.

    I wonder if good quality hemp oil will come available in Colorado or Washington soon, now that recreational use is legal?
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    I think the beauty of the oil is how compact it is and can be stored so easily, how you do that though I am not sure, whether you can fridge or freeze it. Guessing it could last years though, from a one off oil run you could potentially produce enough to last you a long time.

    Not sure the win in these states is going to change the face of medical MJ much? Going to be the same old Feds vs the states unless Obama backs off, which he has not done for medical MJ, even though he said he would. Think the best bet would be to start talking to a lot of dispensaries and maybe medical co-ops about oil, you might even find a group of Fibro patients, seeing if you have any options over the border; legalisation may open up a lot of options to getting material to make your own oil.
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    The video said 1 pound of dried only makes a 3 month supply of oil for 1 person.
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    Well what I was suggesting was you could do one all out run for a long term supply, rather than having to mess around with going through the processes regularly, especially if you could 'do it' outdoors; but we are probably getting into territory now that is more suitable for other forums.

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