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Quick help for viral symptoms?

Discussion in 'Immunological' started by Ocean, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. Plum

    Plum Senior Member

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    I would be looking into ways of healing leaky gut if I were you. That's the issue with ulcers etc. Unfortunately a lot of meds have to be stopped in order to address leaky gut properly.
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    Ocean Senior Member

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    I don't have an ulcer, I had one like 15 years ago as a side effect of some harsh medication. It's long since healed and I don't have other stomach symptoms. I was just trying to make the point that I read not to take acid supplements if you've had an ulcer in the past. I would be open to take a supplement like that if the zantac was making my stomach acid too low but only if I could do so safely and I'm not sure how to determine if the zantac is making my stomach acid too low and if it's safe for me to take stomach acid supplements.
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    baccarat Senior Member

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    Ocean, I don't know much about holy basil. I don't understand the mast cell issue.
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    Ocean Senior Member

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    What natural alternatives to zantac did you have in mind? Thank you!
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    Ocean Senior Member

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    A few more questions, if anyone has any thoughts on this. Could this be a herx reaction instead of a PEM type crash? I started taking boron, 3 pills a day recently, and then read recently about herxing and that boron can cause that. I stopped it a couple days ago and usually I take all meds and supplements by gradually adding them in and this time didn't do that. So far it's been about two weeks of being sick and about 3 weeks since I started boron.

    Also a lot of my symptoms feel like allergy, like watery eyes, warm face, sore throat, headache. Would increasing my allergy meds help in this situation even if the symptoms are from a crash? I remember in the past when I was actively sick my IGG was very high.
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    baccarat Senior Member

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    Ocean,
    I'm sorry, I don't understand what the zantac is supposed to help with. For stomach/indigestion a good remedy is licorice DGL otherwise potato/cabbage juice. These two are the ones that helped me most when I used to suffer from gastritis whilst the usually recommended digestive enzymes and hydrochloric acid would make it worse.
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    Ocean Senior Member

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    I see. I use zantac to help block histamine, so I would need an alternative that does that, since I don't use it to block stomach acid. I guess the way I use it is a less common use for zantac. Thank you!
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    baccarat Senior Member

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    Possibly luteolin, quercetin, chinese skulcap, andrographis paniculata, ganoderma lucidum, withania somnifera. The last three may also help recover from pem.
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