Invisible Illness Awareness Week 2016: Our Voices Need to Be Heard
Never heard of Invisible Illness Awareness Week? You're not alone. Jody Smith sheds a little light to make it more visible
Discuss the article on the Forums.

Question about kidneys and strain

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by optimist, Nov 24, 2014.

  1. optimist

    optimist Senior Member

    Messages:
    432
    Likes:
    300
    Norway
    Hi!

    These days I am consuming a fair dose of salt, 400mg magnezium and up to several grams of C-Vitamins. All of them are said to be secreted out by the kidneys when in excess. My question is - can a high dosage of these and similar products wear out the kidneys?
     
  2. CFS_for_19_years

    CFS_for_19_years Hoarder of biscuits

    Messages:
    2,007
    Likes:
    5,084
    USA
    Consuming these substances won't wear out your kidneys. As long as your kidneys are functioning fine, you should have no problems. The problems arise when your kidneys are not already functioning well and you introduce substances that the kidneys have to clear from the body. For instance, if your kidneys were already impaired, you would retain magnesium and sodium.

    With respect to C-Vitamins, it's best to use ascorbate salts such as magnesium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, etc. Plain ascorbic acid will leach minerals from your body and then lead to low mineral levels.

    The standard for determining the functional ability of your kidneys is to have a blood creatinine test, and then calculate the GFR (glomerular filtration rate) from there. A GFR of at least 90 is optimal; if it's less than 60 you should be careful about introducing excess magnesium and sodium, and consulting a doctor is best in that case. Between 60 and 90 you're still probably OK at the levels you are taking. GFR levels are fairly stable within a range of + 10 points, so a creatinine you had a year ago would still be OK to look at.

    Here's an online GFR calculator: http://www.qxmd.com/calculate-online/nephrology/mdrd-egfr
     
  3. optimist

    optimist Senior Member

    Messages:
    432
    Likes:
    300
    Norway
    As far as I know, they are working very fine :) So it is very good to hear that it is not wearing on them!

    Ascorbate salts is totally new to me. Not sure if we have those here where I live - but worth checking out! Does C-Vitamin lower all minerals, or just some?

    Thanks for the link!
     
  4. CFS_for_19_years

    CFS_for_19_years Hoarder of biscuits

    Messages:
    2,007
    Likes:
    5,084
    USA
    Mineral ascorbates shouldn't be too hard to find in a health food store:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_ascorbates

    Look for Vitamin C products that list the following ingredients:
    Calcium ascorbate
    Magnesium ascorbate
    Potassium ascorbate
    Sodium ascorbate (not the best choice since your body has more need for the minerals I listed above)

    Here's an example of a good product:
    http://www.vitacost.com/productResu...SR=1&Ntt=Source Naturals Ultimate Ascorbate C

    I recall reading that can plain Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in excessive amounts, can leach the minerals you need to maintain healthy bones, such as calcium and magnesium. A naturopath recommended to me that I not take more than 2000mg per day of Vitamin C, due to this very problem. I developed some stress fractures in my feet around the time I was taking a lot of Vitamin C, years ago, and I blame it on my Vitamin C intake. The radiologist who saw my foot films asked me what had I been doing to my feet!
     
  5. optimist

    optimist Senior Member

    Messages:
    432
    Likes:
    300
    Norway

See more popular forum discussions.

Share This Page