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Psychology Today Opinion piece regarding the IOM release

Discussion in 'Institute of Medicine (IOM) Government Contract' started by Kati, Feb 20, 2015.

  1. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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    Reminds me of the Auditors of Reality...
     
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  2. Kati

    Kati Patient in training

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    I phoned the faculty of medicine at Univerity of Toronto again today in regards to my complaint. I had t leave a message, and i hope they will phone me back.
     
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  3. Kati

    Kati Patient in training

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    i received an email today:

    Dear Ms. @Kati ,


    Thank you for your email. I have passed it along to Dean Young for his attention.


    I understand the article has been removed by Psychology Today in consultation with Professor Shorter.


    I appreciate you writing to us and expressing your concerns.


    Sincerely,

    Amy Lee




    Amy Lee

    Executive Secretary to the Dean

    Faculty of Medicine

    University of Toronto

    Room 2109, Medical Sciences Building

    1 King’s College Circle

    Toronto, ON M5S 1A8

    Phone: 416 946-7810

    Email: meddean.admin@utoronto.ca
     
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  4. Kyla

    Kyla ᴀɴɴɪᴇ ɢꜱᴀᴍᴩᴇʟ

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    Will there be a retraction or an opposing viewpoint published?

    This is more of a rhetorical question as I am quite sure the answer is no.
     
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  5. Kati

    Kati Patient in training

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    He likely took it down a day or 2 later and wrote a second piece which would not be as upsetting but still offering a slanted view of our patient population.

    The dammage is done however and considering the fact that is a a member of the faculty of medicine at the University of Toronto and likely teaching students, this is scary to my eyes and unacceptable.
     
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    @Snow Leopard That is the second piece, believe it or not.

    There are links in the comments that will take you to an archived copy of the first one.
     
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  8. Snow Leopard

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    Ah, I think my memory failed me... Thanks.
     
  9. GracieJ

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    @Snow Leopard Figured it was something like that - I was puzzled.
     
  10. lazzlazz

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    Regarding the piece "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is Back" which has been removed from Psychology Today: at the time, I put it in the internet archive at the time; see link above in the quote if you want to see it. (Note there still is a 2nd blog by Edward Shorter on CFS at Psychology Today, but that is different from the piece "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is Back" that was removed.)

    See message above from U of Toronto Dean's office saying the piece had been taken down by Psychology Today.

    This is the title/subtitle of the piece that was removed:
    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is Back!
    But the new Institute of Medicine report is driven by politics, not science
    Post published by Edward Shorter Ph.D. on Feb 19, 2015 in How Everyone Became Depressed

    If you can still add comments over at the Psychology Today piece titled "Chronic Fatigue in the Context of the History of Medicine" (https://web.archive.org/web/2015053...c-fatigue-in-the-context-the-history-medicine), someone could put a link to the internet archived version of this article:

    "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is Back" (https: //web .archive. org/web/20150220123853/https: //www. psychologytoday. com /blog/how-everyone-became-depressed/201502/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-is-back
    Note I put spaces before and after "org" and "com", and after "http", "https", and "www" so the full address would show up here. You need to remove those spaces; here it is without the spaces so it is click-able: https://web.archive.org/web/2015022...essed/201502/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-is-back

    PS: I've written to the OP of this thread suggesting that a link to the web.archive.org version of this article be put in the first post of this thread, if it's still possible to edit that first post.​
     
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  11. Kati

    Kati Patient in training

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    Hi @lazzlazz when the threads become a bit dated, we no longer have the capacity to edit them, but I will make a request to the mods to change the link, thank you for this.

    As an update, i never received any response from U of T. Perhaps not surprising since the new dean comes from the faculty of psychiatry.
     
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  12. Izola

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    With a background in social psych research, PT lost their credibility with me decades ago. Guess I should had said something back then. Can't imagine how psychiatry, this non-science dangerous crap, has been allowed to perpetuate. Maybe Alex can clue me in. He understands the history of psych far better than I. What I see is a bunch of theory brewing arrogants, some with pipes, some without, none with empirical research to support them.

    (I don't knock those naturally gifted therapists who help us untie our personal emotional and social knots we get from time to time.)

    BTW, my intro to sociology text (circa 1970) mentioned the California hospital ME outbreak (1930's or 40's) and concluded it an example of mass hysteria. My response was visceral and immediately intellectually informed. How could thoughts and inner feelings seep through the air and psychologically infect another? Thought miasmas? Hmm-m-mmm. iz
     
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  13. Izola

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    Some are only capable of living a parody. iz :D
     
  14. Izola

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    Good Lord. How did you survive your education? Well, the truth be that one of my professors who studied under B.F. Skinner brought in a truckload -- yes, backed up to the Social Sciences bldg with crate loads of chickens for students to train after I had said I potty trained my pet chicken. Eeeeek!!!!
    iz
     
  15. Izola

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    I put my body into a near death spiral trying to find any research establishing any scientific evidence showing that a somatisation disorder might possibly occur. None. What can occur is that if you have ME and try to find that kind of evidence is that your remaining baseline existence falls into a cellar of screaming pain and darkness. I can even feel my individual cells crying out. Sometimes, I think, my blood refuses to flow. I take heart that I have you all to support me and I try to vice versa. So, now I know. I am in the shit pit. I just knew there was a good name for this. iz
     
  16. Izola

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    So, they don't believe their own shit, huh?
     
  17. Izola

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    I guess not in this world. iz
     
  18. Izola

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    Does it count that over the years I've gotten back into the faces of many of these nayers? Not so much anymore. :( iz
     
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    not sure. i think they dont think highly of somatizers. just view them as weak minded hysterics. they dont care if their science adds up or not. it's of course politically incorrect to admit that so they hide behind their studies and psychobabble. some may be well intentioned and believe all that mind over matter stuff.
     
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  20. Izola

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    So, if I told them that I've been floating up near the cathedral ceiling a lot these days, that would be mind over matter and therefore credible and acceptable to some of them? ;) iz
     

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