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Psychiatry divided as mental health 'bible' denounced

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by natasa778, May 5, 2013.

  1. natasa778

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    There is is a thread on this, I believe, the finding involved calcium channel function
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    The main problem here is that most researchers are still looking in all the wrong places. While many are ready do see psychiatric illnesses as biomedical conditions - esp in the case of autism, where it cannot be argued that children 'think' themselves ill, and so bps model cannot be applied - unfortunately for patients when many of those who should know better talk biology they automatically and ONLY are talking about genes. So when psychologists say that biology does not influence workings of the brain the evidence they bring forward is that genetic studies haven't brought us any answers. They do not for a second think that there could be other biological things APART from one's genetic makeup that could be playing a role. Psychiatrists on the other hand, when faced with the fact that genetic studies have not brought any answers to mental disorders, again say that either A) they just need to carry out more genetic studies, as this MUST be the answer or B) patients are thinking themselves ill.

    This is why it is so easy to sell autism-as-a-genetic-condition myth to everyone. Because the BPS model does not apply the answer must be biology, but unfortunately the only biological agent many people think exists out there is your hardware genes. Very very few people are even aware that environmental things like toxins, viruses, the bacteria living inside you etc, can actually influence your biology, and hence your mental states.

    So in order to crack schizophrenia, autism etc (including ME) it will take two separate changes of paradigm and opening of minds - one is that there is a biological underpinning to many mental health diseases, and secondly that there is much more to biological influences than your hardwired genetic makeup.
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    So they do not know the basic rule: phenotype is genotype plus environment
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    "Autism-as-a-genetic-condition" serves a very useful purpose: it blames the patient and their parents. The medical industry will do anything to deflect attention away from what might be the real cause, since the real cause might upset their apple cart.

    Overall I consider psychiatry to be the modern-day version of casting out demons. Instead of sprinkling holy water, just douse the patient with some (highly profitable) pharmaceuticals.

    My psychiatric diagnosis is "Depression NOS", in other words, they have no idea what is wrong. Refusal to take any more antidepressants is more evidence of mental illness, I am sure. The therapist wrote that I failed to respond to her "treatment", not that her "treatment" failed to work.

    I told her that the most effective antidepressant I could receive was a favorable decision on my disability claim. The therapist decided this meant that I was a lazy welfare bum who chose to stay sick. She seemed to be unaware that welfare in the form of Medicaid was buying her meal ticket.

    I have now received my third monthly disability check. Surprise, surprise, I have not thought about killing myself since winning my disability claim. I'm certainly not eating steak and lobster, or vacationing in Florida, but my home is no longer in danger of seizure by tax authorities. I don't have to beg for heating oil from the government and firewood from my neighbors. I don't have to beg for a ride to the grocery store. I don't have to beg for money from my family to pay the electric bill. I even have a working toaster again, and I can use worn out clothes for rags instead of wearing them to town.

    So what was the cause of my mental illness? Was it the M.E., or maybe, just maybe, it was caused by being tossed on the trash heap and kicked in the head by a society that prefers remote-control killing over helping people to live...
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    Psychiatrists under fire in mental health battle
    British Psychological Society to launch attack on rival profession, casting doubt on biomedical model of mental illness
    The Observer, Sunday 12 May 2013
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/12/psychiatrists-under-fire-mental-health


    Do we need to change the way we are thinking about mental illness?
    Experts on both sides of the debate over the classification of mental disorders make their case
    The Observer, Sunday 12 May 2013
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/may/12/dsm-5-conspiracy-laughable



    Our friend is quoted in the first article, and is given column space to express his opinion in the second article.

    There are a lot of public comments under the first article, but I haven't read any yet.
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    @Firestormm, thanku for posting. We crossed posts.


    Interesting article:
    NIH rethinks psychiatry trials
    Mental-health division will no longer fund research aiming to relieve symptoms without probing underlying causes.
    Nature

    14 March 2014
    http://www.nature.com/news/nih-rethinks-psychiatry-trials-1.14877

    And apparently, according to one psychiatrist :rolleyes:, this is a reason for caution (see bold text):
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