I've been following the forums and especially the XMRV discussion for a year now. We have many people outside this forum who are contra "XMRV" and neglect any connection to CFS. On the other side we have many people here who support WPI and see the XMRV discussion far from over. The great problem and biggest chance for progress in this field in my eyes is the fact that currently there is no interchange between these two opposing sides. Both sides are convinced that they are right and members of both sides try to convince other group members that their side is right. We have many intelligent people here who read the studies. They make very interesting arguments which all seem valid and scientific. The other side does the same and the other side has many studies on their side. The problem and this is the only point I want to make, as long as both sides don't talk to each other, progress will be very slow. Most people here are layman regarding virology. Maybe it would be better if people who have arguments that speak for WPI or XMRV confront virologists with their questions. Vincent Racaniello has a geat site and the comment section offers a great possibility to discuss XMRV but many questions stay unanswered as as long as Gerwyn keeps his troll like behavior it will be very hard to have a solid discussion. So my thought is that in case of valid questions/arguments pro XMRV it would be very good to speak to real virologists and maybe post the answer here, instead of keeping the discussion to mainly PWCs only who do not have a virologist background. Most of us are layman so we cannot counter any pro/contra XMRV arguments even if they are completely false. Putting the discussion on a more profound and scientific basis would be a very good thing in my eyes.