The 12th Invest in ME Conference, Part 1
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Prof Sir Simon Wessely's connection with insurance agencies by Dr Hyde

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Countrygirl, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    This is an interesting little snippet I have just come across. Speaks volumes!

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  2. keenly

    keenly Senior Member

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    He is evil
     
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  3. Mij

    Mij Senior Member

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    Wessely should barred from entering Canadian air space.
     
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    I never heard about this before. It just shows that someone who is charismatic and witty can totally fool people. :(
     
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  5. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    I don't think there is much doubt about that @keenly
     
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    keenly Senior Member

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    It angers me. I like to help people, he likes to hurt them. Very cruel.
     
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    keenly Senior Member

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    Like Ted Bundy?
     
  8. shannah

    shannah Senior Member

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    Was this a tweet and do you have a link by any chance @Countrygirl ?
     
  9. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    I don't twit or tweet....or whatever :confused: @shannah . I found it on my newsfeed.........just taking a look...be back..........

    Phew! (Will this work?)

     
  10. Chrisb

    Chrisb Senior Member

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    When I feel like this about him I always find that it helps pronounce the name accurately. Turn the W into a V and sound that e before the l. Never fails.
     
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  11. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

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    Trofim Lysenko, whether he was delusional, conman or a blinkered zealot wrecked havoc on Russia's sciences and his crap one way and another killed a great many people.

    Blinkered zealotry and ignorance of a great many doctors has killed huge numbers since the 1880s despite "science".
     
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    moblet Unknown Quantity

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    Reminds me of a talk I once attended where an evaluation specialist had reviewed the outcomes of psychiatric intervention throughout a region on a population-wide basis. He summed up his findings thus:
    1. Psychiatry operates on fashion, not evidence.
    2. On a population level there is no evidence that psychiatric intervention is of any benefit.

    Clearly our speaker wasn't as well connected as Wessely given that the psychiatric profession wasn't shut down the following day.

    I think it's important to remember that the culture of the medical profession predates modern science and is not rooted therein. From what I've heard from those teaching medical students it sounds like at least half the people who study medicine are doing so in pursuit of the privilege that comes with being a medical doctor, and have no personal interest in the safety and welfare of others. In my experience more doctors want to be valued for their "opinion" than want to collect data or practice good healthcare. Wessely clearly understands the culture of the medical profession and knows how to exploit it.

    In case you're wondering why Byron Hyde is calling bovine faeces here instead of laughing along with the rest of his profession, before studying medicine Hyde had a prior career as a geotechnician, a field in which it is not possible to ignore/dismiss/ridicule reality and remain employed.
     
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  13. Keela Too

    Keela Too Sally Burch

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    I didn't get this first time. After multiple rehearsals of how the name might sound, it finally dawned on me. :p

    So it it accurate? His ideas - yes certainly; but the man himself - I don't think so. Quite the reverse I suspect. :(
     
  14. SilverbladeTE

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    The real Hannibal Lecters don't eat peoples' livers, they are not a screen villain, they don't use knives etc to kill
    Instead, they use opinions, ignorance, incompetence and political influence to commit VAST amount of murders
    See USA incredible slaughter due to iatrogenics. Guns? Bah weak sauce, medical negligence kills five times more! :(

    Doctors have people's lives in their hands so if they wilfully chose to believe in mumbojumbo that has no scientific support, or worse, follow a methodology they KNOW is false, that harms patients especially when it is FORCED on patients, then it is indeed, murder and other serious criminal offenses what happens to innocent people under their care who are harmed.

    There is plenty of evidence for this yet they keep escaping punishment.
    Hence we had the two biggest mass murderers in history both being British doctors, and one was protected by the Establishment to the extent they manipulated his trial to get him off even when they knew he had murdered at least 160 people
    Both only caught because victims family and friends persisted in demands for investigation, medical authorities totally useless at even stopping mass murder!
    so we have no idea how many more "Shipmans" and "Bodkin Adams" there may well have been..or are still killing

    What those evil scum in the health insurance corporations and government etc don't get is that one day, they or worse, their children, may well come under the care of such monsters.....
     
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    This post might seem off topic but I hope it is relevant, vaguely. Tell me if it isn't.

    I was reading the latest blog by James Coyne when something caught my attention. Although I have seen this reference often before, its relevance only just struck me. The brain cell must have been on duty.

    If one has advised an underwriting company upon matters relating to health or income protection insurance, one should almost certainly recuse oneself from acting as an independent expert witness in any case involving that company.

    But what is the position if one has advised a reinsurance company? I don't claim any understanding of reinsurance, but it seems likely that, for instance, the "second largest reinsurance company in the world" would have an interest in the outcome of claims under such policies issued by most underwriting companies .One's advice may have been sought on matters affecting risk assessment and the management of liabilities. Although the claimant will appear to be dealing with one company a proportion of ultimate liability may fall elsewhere. What then should be the duty of disclosure and recusal for the expert witness? Can one reasonably be said to be independent in any insurance claim?

    Perhaps somebody with abetter grasp of insurance can put me right..

    EDIT the reference I saw related to someone other thanSW
     
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