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Prof Coyne's new blog Undisclosed conflicts of interest in a systematic review protocol of intervent

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  1. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl Senior Member

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  2. Chrisb

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    One cannot help thinking that the money would be better spent on trying to medically explain the symptoms.
     
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    This lot make bankers look like Sunday school teachers.
     
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  4. sarah darwins

    sarah darwins I told you I was ill

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    Snap. I was thinking about bankers as I read the above. If you're shameless enough you can get away with anything. Never apologise, never explain.

    Incidentally, today is a special day in Britain, that magical day when the pay of executives at FTSE 100 corporations goes past the average annual salary mark for the UK. This year is took them less than five days. It's the most wonderful time ... of the year ....
     
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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    One cannot help but wonder why this exquisitely plain logic has not been doggedly applied whenever and wherever BPSers try to blame the patient.
     
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  6. duncan

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    Insurance and state disability interests?
     
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  7. Invisible Woman

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    I agree that this is where the pressure is to keep this house of cards standing but when you look at the long term it just doesn't stack up here either. Put the money into research and provide a cure or at least effective treatment and you would have productive people going about their lives earning money and paying tax. Hopefully, if the treatment is good enough, it eventually ceases to qualify for insurance payouts too.

    It's pure short term logic that this way of carrying on saves money.
     
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  8. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards A unique snowflake

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    Amused by the quote from Moss-Morris:
    Sustained effects that were no better than doing nothing? Can she hear herself?

    Jim's comment is very much to the point:
    :)
     
  9. adreno

    adreno PR activist

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    I think it's better to just link to the blog, and give him the traffic, rather than posting the entire blog post here.
     
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  10. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    The actual blog is a lot longer but I agree it might be good to post something a bit shorter, @Countrygirl, to make sure he gets lots of traffic over there.
     
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    I think this has some nice quotes by Coyne and others that I think I may use in future when talking about conflicts of interest
     
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    @jimells, that's a hilarious comment! The PACE zombie! :) (Well, it would be hilarious if it wasn't such a serious subject.) (Here's a direct link to your comment in case anyone wants to read it in full.)
     
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  13. Bob

    Bob

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    I must remember that line! A simple but devastating counter-argument to the spin!
     
  14. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards A unique snowflake

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    I aim to please. :)
     
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  16. Sean

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    Sustained non-effects. Now 50% more, 30% sooner, and only at 17% more cost!

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    Zombie research? How about "fake it till you make it research"?

    (but what if you never make it, then it's just all fake?)
     
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    PDW has now disclosed his conflicts after being outed by Dr James Coyne.

    http://www.crd.york.ac.uk/PROSPERO/display_record.asp?ID=CRD42015025520

    Conflicts of interest
    PDW has undertaken consultancy work for a re-insurance firm. He has also undertaken voluntary consultancy for the Departments of Health, Work and Pensions and is a member of the Independent Medical Experts Group, a non-Governmental organisation which advises the Ministry of Defence regarding their Armed Forces Compensation Fund.


    He did this 2 days after Dr James Coyne's blog.

    DISGRACEFUL BEHAVIOUR.
     
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    Here's the rogues' gallery




    Here is Prof White's plans for us! He also, he states, will create links and engage with our ME charities! I hope we can put a stop to that.


     

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